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Old news, they turned on diesel generators and Starlink and shifted around. They obviously would have taken a hit and Thailand has already shut down cell tower

Old news, they turned on diesel generators and Starlink and shifted around. They obviously would have taken a hit and Thailand has already shut down cell towers on the Cambodia border near Poi Pet where they moved some operations. They should have been reading HN and how solar is cheaper than anything else, silly criminals doing real world stuff. This all happened because they kidnapped a Chinese actor, maybe fake casting call ads are not the wisest idea - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Wang_Xing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Wang_Xing

pca006132 2y ago
Tbh I feel like the people didn't care much about it because the people who got kidnapped there were mostly attracted by job offers that were known to be shady (quick money), so there wasn't much discussion around this. The actor getting kidnapped is different: People suddenly found that you can be kidnapped even when the offer seems legit and only staying in Thailand. This forced the government (both China and Thailand) to take action to address the concerns. But I think this will come back again. This kidnapping thing is not new, and it caught media attention a few years ago as well, they just go silent for a period of time and continue their operation later.
- bobthepanda 2y ago
  it's very odd that China doesn't really care about an estimated 100K of its citizens getting trafficked in this manner. It's such an open secret that there was a $500MM box office movie about it last year, and media censorship is so heavy in China that I wonder what admitting this even means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_More_Bets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_More_Bets
  - walterbell 2y ago
    > 100K of its citizens getting trafficked Is there public data on their demographics, e.g. occupation, income, age, credit score, region of China?
  - which 2y ago
    They backed a group of militias to invade areas where this was happening [0]. They also pressured family members of tens of thousands Chinese in northern Myanmar to return [1]. China literally waltzed into Kokang and put the top scam leaders on a plane. The real question is why there hasn't been any remotely comparable response from the US. Every EAO that matters is aligned with China and thus doesn't care when Americans are scammed. The US should make them care. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_1027 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_1027 [1] https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3141474/beijings-crackdown-online-fraud-forces-citizens-leave-myanmars https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3141474/beij...
    - bobthepanda 2y ago
      If it were just scamming it would be one thing but for China it's a much bigger deal because it also involves human trafficking of their citizens. While Americans are being scammed, none of them are getting kidnapped and getting essentially enslaved at these scam farms. Thanks for the links though; I was unaware the PLA was directly involved with the latest offenses.
    - spiderfarmer 2y ago
      What do you expect from a government where the President, the First Lady and the unofficial vice president are all paddling meme coins? They really, really, really don't care about any of this.
- ashoeafoot 2y ago
  Nonsense, you have people who got in debt to loansharks to pay of mostly gambling and property debts and then get trafficked.

pca006132 2y ago

Tbh I feel like the people didn't care much about it because the people who got kidnapped there were mostly attracted by job offers that were known to be shady (quick money), so there wasn't much discussion around this. The actor getting kidnapped is different: People suddenly found that you can be kidnapped even when the offer seems legit and only staying in Thailand. This forced the government (both China and Thailand) to take action to address the concerns. But I think this will come back again. This kidnapping thing is not new, and it caught media attention a few years ago as well, they just go silent for a period of time and continue their operation later.

bobthepanda 2y ago
it's very odd that China doesn't really care about an estimated 100K of its citizens getting trafficked in this manner. It's such an open secret that there was a $500MM box office movie about it last year, and media censorship is so heavy in China that I wonder what admitting this even means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_More_Bets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_More_Bets
- walterbell 2y ago
  > 100K of its citizens getting trafficked Is there public data on their demographics, e.g. occupation, income, age, credit score, region of China?
- which 2y ago
  They backed a group of militias to invade areas where this was happening [0]. They also pressured family members of tens of thousands Chinese in northern Myanmar to return [1]. China literally waltzed into Kokang and put the top scam leaders on a plane. The real question is why there hasn't been any remotely comparable response from the US. Every EAO that matters is aligned with China and thus doesn't care when Americans are scammed. The US should make them care. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_1027 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_1027 [1] https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3141474/beijings-crackdown-online-fraud-forces-citizens-leave-myanmars https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3141474/beij...
  - bobthepanda 2y ago
    If it were just scamming it would be one thing but for China it's a much bigger deal because it also involves human trafficking of their citizens. While Americans are being scammed, none of them are getting kidnapped and getting essentially enslaved at these scam farms. Thanks for the links though; I was unaware the PLA was directly involved with the latest offenses.
  - spiderfarmer 2y ago
    What do you expect from a government where the President, the First Lady and the unofficial vice president are all paddling meme coins? They really, really, really don't care about any of this.
ashoeafoot 2y ago
Nonsense, you have people who got in debt to loansharks to pay of mostly gambling and property debts and then get trafficked.