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I think we all agree that making the Gov more efficient is a good thing but this is about terrorizing federal employees for ideological reasons. There is no cri

I think we all agree that making the Gov more efficient is a good thing but this is about terrorizing federal employees for ideological reasons. There is no crisis to justify this. We do have a crisis in healthcare which is being ignored.

Panoramix 2y ago
I am certainly not a supporter of this government, but I do find it unsettling to have massive amounts of ideologically fueled bureaucrats running the government. It goes both ways. The pendulum is now swinging in the other direction. I am losing hope that it will return to the middle one day.
- djur 2y ago
  What makes you think that "massive amounts of ideologically fueled bureaucrats" run the government?
  - miohtama 2y ago
    Probably not fueled but in some agencies most staff is Democrats > Democrats made up about half of the workforce during the 1997-2019 data period (compared with about 41% of the U.S. population). Meanwhile, registered Republicans dropped from 32% to 26% during the period, with an increase in Independents making up the difference. The most heavily Democratic departments are the EPA, Department of Education, and the State Department, where about 70% of employees are registered to the party, while the most conservative departments are Agriculture and Transportation. https://newsroom.haas.berkeley.edu/research/study-finds-the-cost-of-partisanship-among-federal-workers/ https://newsroom.haas.berkeley.edu/research/study-finds-the-... Also American First propaganda site lists some individual cases where career staff hinders agenda due to ideological reasons.
    - xav0989 2y ago
      Wasn’t there a study that identified that college educated individuals are more likely to be Democrats? Most US government jobs require a college degree (or higher), so it wouldn’t be surprising to see that population match the findings in the general population? Additionally, the republican image typically espouses the idea of private industry and private capital more so than the democrats, where public service takes a bigger role. If people already identified with a given ideology, it’s likely that their career choice would reflect that. Finally, one’s political leanings aren’t being used to determine if they should be hired.
    - blharr 2y ago
      Ideologically, it seems like Republicans or Libertarians oppose the federal government generally. Wouldn't it make sense for there to be less of them wanting to work for the government? I'd imagine you wouldn't find an abundance of pacifists working in the military either
    - rainsford 2y ago
      How is being registered with a political party even anywhere in the same ballpark as "ideologically fueled"? And why does that only apply to one political party? Career government employees by definition serve during both Republican and Democratic administrations and at any point the President is going to have a lot of people in the executive branch who voted for the other side. If this partisan mismatch was such a massive problem, we'd have heard about more than a handful of individual cases.
- onemoresoop 2y ago
  > massive amounts of ideologically fueled bureaucrats running the government You will have a different type of ideologically fueled bureaucrats running the governemnt, just look at what’s happening and who got appointed where. I mean, come on, Kash Patel running the FBI? Kash Patel was selling his own merch.
k3vinw 2y ago
Ha. I have the complete opposite take. That the terrorism being done here is by unelected bureaucrats weaponizing tax payers money against the tax payers like myself. And it’s gone unchecked for decades. That’s the crisis.
- DrillShopper 2y ago
  In what ways have unelected bureaucrats (of which Elon Musk is now one) weapenized your tax dollars against you?
- westmeal 2y ago
  Did anyone elect daddy elon?
- throwawayqqq11 2y ago
  Unelected bureaucrats can weaponize public spendig against citizens ... sounds very distorted and biased to me. "Weaponized" is a term i immediately associate with propaganda. Could you please elaborate on that decades long terror, but please try not to make it about only you.
- jeltz 2y ago
  Unlike Elon who is actually an unelected bureaucrat who wesponizes tax payer monet against the tax payers?
- asielen 2y ago
  Budgets are approved by Congress... How are bureaucrats weaponising money they don't fully control? What specific examples do you have of being terrorized by bureaucrats?

Panoramix 2y ago

I am certainly not a supporter of this government, but I do find it unsettling to have massive amounts of ideologically fueled bureaucrats running the government. It goes both ways. The pendulum is now swinging in the other direction. I am losing hope that it will return to the middle one day.

djur 2y ago
What makes you think that "massive amounts of ideologically fueled bureaucrats" run the government?
- miohtama 2y ago
  Probably not fueled but in some agencies most staff is Democrats > Democrats made up about half of the workforce during the 1997-2019 data period (compared with about 41% of the U.S. population). Meanwhile, registered Republicans dropped from 32% to 26% during the period, with an increase in Independents making up the difference. The most heavily Democratic departments are the EPA, Department of Education, and the State Department, where about 70% of employees are registered to the party, while the most conservative departments are Agriculture and Transportation. https://newsroom.haas.berkeley.edu/research/study-finds-the-cost-of-partisanship-among-federal-workers/ https://newsroom.haas.berkeley.edu/research/study-finds-the-... Also American First propaganda site lists some individual cases where career staff hinders agenda due to ideological reasons.
  - xav0989 2y ago
    Wasn’t there a study that identified that college educated individuals are more likely to be Democrats? Most US government jobs require a college degree (or higher), so it wouldn’t be surprising to see that population match the findings in the general population? Additionally, the republican image typically espouses the idea of private industry and private capital more so than the democrats, where public service takes a bigger role. If people already identified with a given ideology, it’s likely that their career choice would reflect that. Finally, one’s political leanings aren’t being used to determine if they should be hired.
  - blharr 2y ago
    Ideologically, it seems like Republicans or Libertarians oppose the federal government generally. Wouldn't it make sense for there to be less of them wanting to work for the government? I'd imagine you wouldn't find an abundance of pacifists working in the military either
  - rainsford 2y ago
    How is being registered with a political party even anywhere in the same ballpark as "ideologically fueled"? And why does that only apply to one political party? Career government employees by definition serve during both Republican and Democratic administrations and at any point the President is going to have a lot of people in the executive branch who voted for the other side. If this partisan mismatch was such a massive problem, we'd have heard about more than a handful of individual cases.
onemoresoop 2y ago
> massive amounts of ideologically fueled bureaucrats running the government You will have a different type of ideologically fueled bureaucrats running the governemnt, just look at what’s happening and who got appointed where. I mean, come on, Kash Patel running the FBI? Kash Patel was selling his own merch.

k3vinw 2y ago

Ha. I have the complete opposite take. That the terrorism being done here is by unelected bureaucrats weaponizing tax payers money against the tax payers like myself. And it’s gone unchecked for decades. That’s the crisis.

DrillShopper 2y ago
In what ways have unelected bureaucrats (of which Elon Musk is now one) weapenized your tax dollars against you?
westmeal 2y ago
Did anyone elect daddy elon?
throwawayqqq11 2y ago
Unelected bureaucrats can weaponize public spendig against citizens ... sounds very distorted and biased to me. "Weaponized" is a term i immediately associate with propaganda. Could you please elaborate on that decades long terror, but please try not to make it about only you.
jeltz 2y ago
Unlike Elon who is actually an unelected bureaucrat who wesponizes tax payer monet against the tax payers?
asielen 2y ago
Budgets are approved by Congress... How are bureaucrats weaponising money they don't fully control? What specific examples do you have of being terrorized by bureaucrats?