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I'd fire him > .”Hey, boss, I am going to install action X, which should solve the XYZ problems we’ve been having. Will take care of this on Monday unless I he

by worik 2y ago

I'd fire him > .”Hey, boss, I am going to install action X, which should solve the XYZ problems we’ve been having. Will take care of this on Monday unless I hear differently from you.” No thank you. I'm the boss. Don't push me around

mooreds 2y ago
Author here. Ah, this is interesting feedback. I think that there's some nuance to this approach that I didn't capture in the post. You have to have some level of trust between yourself and your boss, which you've earned over time by being right and/or fixing mistakes you've made if you were wrong. The idea isn't to push the boss around; it's to make the boss' job easier by making default decisions for them, but letting them weigh in.
- worik 2y ago
  > You have to have some level of trust between yourself and your boss Yes. What you are suggesting is corrosive to trust though. Frank discussion is good. Stating what you need and what you expect. Game playing is no good and I would probably not fire you for it, I was being hyperbolic, but the point I am making is do not play games. At work, or anywhere. Relationships thrive on honesty.
xerox13ster 2y ago
Yes you’re the boss and no one can take that away from you. You must have worked very hard to get there if you’re blocking your team from taking initiative and making independent contributions to the organization. Based on this attitude I’d assume you suffer from an extreme inability to delegate and are going to be stuck in whatever direct supervisor position you’re in for the remainder of your career. If I showed initiative like this and your response was “I’m the boss. Don’t push me around.” I’d quit on the spot and I sincerely hope you only have lackeys too dumb to understand how detrimental this egoist attitude to your own authority is to productivity and creating organizational value.
- worik 2y ago
  > If I showed initiative like this It is not initiative. It is manipulation That is poison in any organisation
  - xerox13ster 2y ago
    Ohhhh, riiiiight, you're one of those bosses that project their weakness and paranoia onto the people that work for them to tear down subordinates and stay on top. Thanks for confirming your impotence as a leader and your inability to delegate.

by worik 2y ago

mooreds 2y ago

Author here. Ah, this is interesting feedback. I think that there's some nuance to this approach that I didn't capture in the post. You have to have some level of trust between yourself and your boss, which you've earned over time by being right and/or fixing mistakes you've made if you were wrong. The idea isn't to push the boss around; it's to make the boss' job easier by making default decisions for them, but letting them weigh in.

worik 2y ago
> You have to have some level of trust between yourself and your boss Yes. What you are suggesting is corrosive to trust though. Frank discussion is good. Stating what you need and what you expect. Game playing is no good and I would probably not fire you for it, I was being hyperbolic, but the point I am making is do not play games. At work, or anywhere. Relationships thrive on honesty.

xerox13ster 2y ago

Yes you’re the boss and no one can take that away from you. You must have worked very hard to get there if you’re blocking your team from taking initiative and making independent contributions to the organization. Based on this attitude I’d assume you suffer from an extreme inability to delegate and are going to be stuck in whatever direct supervisor position you’re in for the remainder of your career. If I showed initiative like this and your response was “I’m the boss. Don’t push me around.” I’d quit on the spot and I sincerely hope you only have lackeys too dumb to understand how detrimental this egoist attitude to your own authority is to productivity and creating organizational value.

worik 2y ago
> If I showed initiative like this It is not initiative. It is manipulation That is poison in any organisation
- xerox13ster 2y ago
  Ohhhh, riiiiight, you're one of those bosses that project their weakness and paranoia onto the people that work for them to tear down subordinates and stay on top. Thanks for confirming your impotence as a leader and your inability to delegate.