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>Obama had control over the House and Senate during his first term. Not for the full term, only 2 years, where he got ACA enacted. So don't act like he had com

>Obama had control over the House and Senate during his first term. Not for the full term, only 2 years, where he got ACA enacted. So don't act like he had completely free reign for 8 years, or that he didn't get anything done. >Why didn't either of them pardon Snowden? Nobody would pardon Snowden, he ran. Obama let Manning off pretty easily because she came to justice, and he said if Snowden wanted to face justice, he'd likely be free in the U.S. right now. >Why didn't they make deals to do things that are good? ACA was good for millions of people. Republicans are set to erase that. No, both sides are not the same. >There are reasonable things Republicans want Like what? Ending birthright citizenship? Ending gay marriage? Ending a lot of things vulnerable people depend on? The damage Repulbicans are doing is a very long list. No, the Democrats do not have an equally long list. I'm going to go any further than this with you, it's pointless.

AnthonyMouse 2y ago
> Not for the full term, only 2 years, where he got ACA enacted. The US still has about the highest healthcare costs in the world. If that's supposed to be what success looks like, it's not great. > Nobody would pardon Snowden, he ran. That's just an excuse. Demanding that he face a trial is conceding that he would be prosecuted, which only proves that he was right to run. Justice for what he did is a pardon. > ACA was good for millions of people. Republicans are set to erase that. ACA was incremental progress that barely made a dent, and could easily have been a bipartisan bill if bipartisanship was still a thing. Half the reason Republicans are always talking about repealing it is that it was full of their ideas and they want to "repeal and replace" it by making some minor tweaks so they can claim the credit for the modest benefits because neither party can be bothered to address the bigger problems with the US healthcare system. > No, the Democrats do not have an equally long list. The Democrats play coy. When they pass laws to enrich the megacorps or special interests, they tell you they're defending the little guy, as if simply claiming that conveys the right to be indignant if someone wants to subject their proposals to an analysis of qui bono.
- leptons 2y ago
  As I said before, I'm going to go any further than this with you, it's pointless. Your opinions are not my opinions. I think you have a distorted perspective of reality, so it's not going to accomplish anything by trying to point out your errors. The Democrats voting record proves you wrong, but I doubt you've ever seen it. BOTH SIDES ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING THE SAME.

AnthonyMouse 2y ago

> Not for the full term, only 2 years, where he got ACA enacted. The US still has about the highest healthcare costs in the world. If that's supposed to be what success looks like, it's not great. > Nobody would pardon Snowden, he ran. That's just an excuse. Demanding that he face a trial is conceding that he would be prosecuted, which only proves that he was right to run. Justice for what he did is a pardon. > ACA was good for millions of people. Republicans are set to erase that. ACA was incremental progress that barely made a dent, and could easily have been a bipartisan bill if bipartisanship was still a thing. Half the reason Republicans are always talking about repealing it is that it was full of their ideas and they want to "repeal and replace" it by making some minor tweaks so they can claim the credit for the modest benefits because neither party can be bothered to address the bigger problems with the US healthcare system. > No, the Democrats do not have an equally long list. The Democrats play coy. When they pass laws to enrich the megacorps or special interests, they tell you they're defending the little guy, as if simply claiming that conveys the right to be indignant if someone wants to subject their proposals to an analysis of qui bono.

leptons 2y ago
As I said before, I'm going to go any further than this with you, it's pointless. Your opinions are not my opinions. I think you have a distorted perspective of reality, so it's not going to accomplish anything by trying to point out your errors. The Democrats voting record proves you wrong, but I doubt you've ever seen it. BOTH SIDES ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING THE SAME.