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Even assuming that this is an accurate recounting of what people believe they saw, we can dismiss out of hand that this is describing UFOs or any kind of space
by empath75 2y ago
Even assuming that this is an accurate recounting of what people believe they saw, we can dismiss out of hand that this is describing UFOs or any kind of space battle. It would have been visible all over Europe and there were astronomers all over Europe that were actively looking at the skies who would have been _extremely_ interested in an event like this. It wouldn't haven't been a notice in a small broadsheet in the middle of nowhere.
There's not really enough information presented to know if this is even a faithful recounting of what witnesses say they saw, though. We don't know if the publisher was more like the NY Times or more like the Weekly World News. Did it regular publish fanciful accounts of the supernatural? I suspect that it did. This was right at the birth of the modern era when modern science was just getting started, but also while witch trials were going on, and this reads just like the fanciful accusations of sorcery and witchcraft against people that were common at the time. And also in the middle of the Reformation, when religious conflicts were at the forefront of people's minds. A war in the heavens would have reflected the war of faith on earth that was going on at the same time.
This is one of those niche topics that Wikipedia is just awful at because the only people interested in editing it are going to be people who have a particular interpretation of it. This is interesting psychologically and historically because it tells us something about how people used symbolism and interpreted "signs" in the sky, but it tells us absolutely _nothing_ of value about what anybody migh have seen or not seen on that day.
Edit: Also -- keep in mind that the early days of the printing press had a similar impact at the time to social media today. An absolute deluge of bullshit, fraud and scams unleashed on a naive population who trusted everything they saw in print and didn't have the tools to distinguish truth from falsehood. You'd think after 500 years people would be better at it.
- ozim 2y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43125522 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43125522 That’s a nice thread to put the same comment there. Some people think BS all around in writing is as recent as last 2 decades.
- LargoLasskhyfv 2y ago> It would have been visible all over Europe Since we have only a single source, maybe even much later, after the fact, we can't triangulate like with the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Norwegian_spiral_anomaly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Norwegian_spiral_anomaly 'War in the heavens' doesn't have to mean LEO, or outer space, as we understand it now. Could have been aerobatics only a few miles up, for all we know. Or a homecoming Vimana suffering from bird strike of its crystal drive, venting some really hot uranium hexaflouride out of its https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_lightbulb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_lightbulb and spewing chaff and flares, because of protocol over strange grounds, or something like that.
- strictnein 2y ago> spewing chaff and flares, because of protocol over strange grounds I kind of like that idea that aliens showed up because from light years away the planet looked empty (no radio emissions). They come into land and "oh shit!" realize they're about to come into contact with some primitive sentient beings.
- consp 2y agoThey came lightyears, yet had no telescopes on board, no radar and no optical instrumentation of any kind.
- strictnein 2y agoIt was just a fun thought experiment.
- LargoLasskhyfv 2y agoMaybe they were pirates on the run, still drowsy, waking up from suspended animation?
- ricksunny 2y agoAh, HNers’ reflexive tendency toward debunkery. I wouldn’t mind except the attitude risks biasing social media deboosting algos by way of techies’ crafting said algos at [$BigSocialMediaCo].