> I'd like to see that sort of innovation happen in some of the other spaces that Python is in I think the language itself is definitely good enough to support

> I'd like to see that sort of innovation happen in some of the other spaces that Python is in I think the language itself is definitely good enough to support the things Python does. But Ruby lacks in things like documentation and standards. RDoc isn't great, neither is bundler and there's no alternative to PEP. Ruby's ecosystem does have some interesting alternatives to Pythons ecosystem. Like Numo for numpy, and Jupyter also supports ruby. But for a matplotlib alternative you have to bind to gnuplot. I still use Ruby much more than Python anyway, my scripts often don't need external packages and Ruby as a language is such a delight to work with.