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See, the problem with two political parties is you get a lot of baggage for a couple of things you like. So you're basically voting for two piles of shit that m

See, the problem with two political parties is you get a lot of baggage for a couple of things you like. So you're basically voting for two piles of shit that may say one or two things you like. Did I like lockdowns? No, Do I like corrupt insurance, also no. The way I see it is the Democrats are for the really poor people and the really rich people, of which I'm neither. The GOP is for the really rich people, of which I am not. Neither party has any interesting restoring any type of freedoms, they both want to ban stuff they don't like. The middle class really has no real representation, and that's why we're dying.

bdangubic 2y ago
they both want to ban stuff they don't like. genuinely curious which stuff do democrats want to ban?
- hollywood_court 2y ago
  I’m curious to hear the answer as well. Maybe they’ll say something about guns. But we all know Republicans basically invented modern gun control. Democrats want to ban things like unvaxxed children. Which sounds like a great idea. Especially looking at the current measles outbreak in Texas.
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Arainach 2y ago
In the last 4 years the Democrats expanded overtime eligibility, ramped up antitrust enforcement, got inflation under control, cracked down on junk fees, forgave billions in student loan debt, invested in domestic manufacturing, invested in infrastructure spending (unlike Trump's "infrastructure week" that was talked about for his entire term and never happened), prosecuted companies for union busting, added penalties for airlines who abuse customers, and so many other things. Anyone who claims "both are the same" and "neither does not anything for the middle class" is being willfully ignorant.
- Clubber 2y ago
  Yea, you're right. Biden did some pretty good things for the middle class. I'm glad he got us out of Afghanistan finally, though it was pretty messy. I'm more remembering Clinton's NAFTA and basically telling everyone to "learn to code," and Obama bailing out the banks but allowing middle class homes to be sold for pennies on the dollar to companies like Berkshire. It wasn't his mess, but the bailouts seemed one sided. Biden also did some bad things, like the lockdowns, and threatening people's jobs if they didn't get the jab. Misrepresenting the efficacy of the vaccine, etc. I believe Pfizer made record profits off those policies, which was, for lack of a better word, "icky." The Twitter Files were pretty bad as well. I didn't like that he defended his 93 crime bill, one of our countries biggest mistakes. He also punted on legalizing pot, ensuring more of the drug war. That's kinda my point, with either party, we get a few good things and a lot of bad things. It always feels like a bad deal.
  - phonon 2y ago
    Lockdowns were under Trump. How quickly we forget ...
    - FireBeyond 2y ago
      "Why wasn't Obama in the White House on 9/11?" "That's what I want to know!" Not to mention that survey back in the day of Republican voters, "What if, instead of Obamacare, the government was to introduce an Affordable Care Act?" 80% of Republican voters were in favor of it...
    - Clubber 2y ago
      Yes they were. They were also extended for multiple years under Biden. The no fly list for no jab under Biden, discharging military who refused the shot, Biden.
      - phonon 2y ago
        No they weren't. It was done, if at all in 2021, at the State level. Vaccination requirements for travel were cross border, and there was never a "No fly list". The closest restrictions to what you may be thinking of was Hawaii's 5 day quarantine requirements for certain unvaccinated travelers, which continued until March 2022. Military have always had vaccination requirements. You are an unreliable narrator, sorry.

bdangubic 2y ago

they both want to ban stuff they don't like. genuinely curious which stuff do democrats want to ban?

hollywood_court 2y ago
I’m curious to hear the answer as well. Maybe they’ll say something about guns. But we all know Republicans basically invented modern gun control. Democrats want to ban things like unvaxxed children. Which sounds like a great idea. Especially looking at the current measles outbreak in Texas.
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Arainach 2y ago

In the last 4 years the Democrats expanded overtime eligibility, ramped up antitrust enforcement, got inflation under control, cracked down on junk fees, forgave billions in student loan debt, invested in domestic manufacturing, invested in infrastructure spending (unlike Trump's "infrastructure week" that was talked about for his entire term and never happened), prosecuted companies for union busting, added penalties for airlines who abuse customers, and so many other things. Anyone who claims "both are the same" and "neither does not anything for the middle class" is being willfully ignorant.

Clubber 2y ago
Yea, you're right. Biden did some pretty good things for the middle class. I'm glad he got us out of Afghanistan finally, though it was pretty messy. I'm more remembering Clinton's NAFTA and basically telling everyone to "learn to code," and Obama bailing out the banks but allowing middle class homes to be sold for pennies on the dollar to companies like Berkshire. It wasn't his mess, but the bailouts seemed one sided. Biden also did some bad things, like the lockdowns, and threatening people's jobs if they didn't get the jab. Misrepresenting the efficacy of the vaccine, etc. I believe Pfizer made record profits off those policies, which was, for lack of a better word, "icky." The Twitter Files were pretty bad as well. I didn't like that he defended his 93 crime bill, one of our countries biggest mistakes. He also punted on legalizing pot, ensuring more of the drug war. That's kinda my point, with either party, we get a few good things and a lot of bad things. It always feels like a bad deal.
- phonon 2y ago
  Lockdowns were under Trump. How quickly we forget ...
  - FireBeyond 2y ago
    "Why wasn't Obama in the White House on 9/11?" "That's what I want to know!" Not to mention that survey back in the day of Republican voters, "What if, instead of Obamacare, the government was to introduce an Affordable Care Act?" 80% of Republican voters were in favor of it...
  - Clubber 2y ago
    Yes they were. They were also extended for multiple years under Biden. The no fly list for no jab under Biden, discharging military who refused the shot, Biden.
    - phonon 2y ago
      No they weren't. It was done, if at all in 2021, at the State level. Vaccination requirements for travel were cross border, and there was never a "No fly list". The closest restrictions to what you may be thinking of was Hawaii's 5 day quarantine requirements for certain unvaccinated travelers, which continued until March 2022. Military have always had vaccination requirements. You are an unreliable narrator, sorry.