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I guess I am weird. I still do this. I just don't want to have to worry about my device being available during boarding nor do I want to have to stop at a kios

by kxrm 2y ago

I guess I am weird. I still do this. I just don't want to have to worry about my device being available during boarding nor do I want to have to stop at a kiosk. Just print at home, go through security and scan at the gate.

crazygringo 2y ago
> I just don't want to have to worry about my device being available during boarding I don't think most people worry about that at all. Why wouldn't it be available? If you're heading to the airport from home, your battery is charged. And if your phone somehow breaks on the way, you print at a kiosk. It seems far more likely that I'd lose a random piece of paper on the way to the airport than lose my phone...
- ryandrake 2y ago
  Maybe I'm weird, but when I go on a trip, I generally pack my smartphone, if I bring it at all. It would be a royal pain to go find it again when I get into line to board.
  - kxrm 2y ago
    Same, I do recognize that walking around without a smartphone starting to become "weird" to others though. I don't mind being weird. I live in a major US city and get hit up for cash by the homeless sometimes. When I explain I do not have a cellphone to them when they ask for money through some cash app. They look bewildered. Just 20 years ago I was the only one carrying around such a device for IT reasons. Now I am putting limits on my digital life, and it makes me socially "weird".
    - ryandrake 2y ago
      Wait, destitute people who have nothing are asking to send money through a smartphone app?? I'd argue the world is weird, not us.
      - crazygringo 2y ago
        Why is that weird? Almost nobody carries around small cash or change anymore. And social services provide the homeless and those in poverty with free smartphones, since they're far more effective at ensuring communications with social services. So how is the world weird? It all seems quite rational and reasonable to me.
    - joseda-hg 2y ago
      OTOH Currently, the only thing I don't pay regularly by using a smart device, are bus fares, which are a solved problem, my city just hasn't implemented that yet Everything else, I can either use a digital wallet for, or an instant bank transfer (Which I've been given to understand are a bit more of a hassle in the US) I'd basically never expect to be without a device for an extended period of time, specially not in an airport I am aware of the single point of failure though, so I do take particular care of not running out of battery, keeping an accesible spare, and some cash around for emergencies I just never use it
  - crazygringo 2y ago
    Yup, that's definitely weird. Most people get pretty bored going to the airport, in line at the airport, waiting for boarding, waiting to take off, during the flight. A smartphone loaded with books and magazine articles and podcasts seems pretty essential by this point for nearly everyone. Not to mention loved ones who want to reach you by text or phone...
    - what 2y ago
      You’re supposed to raw dog the flight.
  - kelnos 2y ago
    I won't call it "weird", because generally I like the idea that some people aren't actually glued to their phone at all times, and don't even have it handy. But I will call it unusual, because the vast majority of people will have their phone in their pocket or purse while at the airport.
- jjav 2y ago
  > I don't think most people worry about that at all. Why wouldn't it be available? If you're heading to the airport from home, your battery is charged. You're assuming the phone works and the internet connection works and the app works and the service behind it responsive. That's a lot of trust in thousands of moving parts. Meanwhile I have a printed boarding pass which depends on nothing other than me having it in my pocket, so it basically 100% fail-proof. While I always use the paper boarding pass, I do also check the boarding pass on the app out of curiosity. Easily like half the time on the American Airlines app, when I'm at the gate about to board and click on show boarding pass, the app hangs for many minutes and never responds. I'm always glad I have the paper boarding pass in my pocket instead.
  - kelnos 2y ago
    > You're assuming the phone works and the internet connection works and the app works and the service behind it responsive At check-in (24 hours before my flight), I add the boarding pass to Google Wallet. From that point, displaying it doesn't require an internet connection, or having to rely on the airline's often-shitty app. Yes, the phone has to not be broken, but that's a pretty low bar: in my 15 years of owning smartphones, my phone has been broken and unusable for perhaps a grand total of a few days of time (so under 0.01% of the time). Yes, Google Wallet has to be functioning, but that particular app being broken would be an unusual, surprising occurrence. And if by 0.01% chance, I can't get the boarding pass off my phone for some reason, I can always go to the check-in desk or kiosk or gate and ask them to print me one. > Meanwhile I have a printed boarding pass which depends on nothing other than me having it in my pocket, so it basically 100% fail-proof. I've never lost a phone before, but I have lost paper boarding passes on more than one occasion. The point is that the mobile boarding pass is a nice convenience (especially with the auto-updating gate number on it), but the ability to get a paper boarding pass printed is never far away if the mobile one fails. So why not just use the mobile one, and save some paper, and the need to keep track of one more item?

by kxrm 2y ago

crazygringo 2y ago

> I just don't want to have to worry about my device being available during boarding I don't think most people worry about that at all. Why wouldn't it be available? If you're heading to the airport from home, your battery is charged. And if your phone somehow breaks on the way, you print at a kiosk. It seems far more likely that I'd lose a random piece of paper on the way to the airport than lose my phone...

ryandrake 2y ago
Maybe I'm weird, but when I go on a trip, I generally pack my smartphone, if I bring it at all. It would be a royal pain to go find it again when I get into line to board.
- kxrm 2y ago
  Same, I do recognize that walking around without a smartphone starting to become "weird" to others though. I don't mind being weird. I live in a major US city and get hit up for cash by the homeless sometimes. When I explain I do not have a cellphone to them when they ask for money through some cash app. They look bewildered. Just 20 years ago I was the only one carrying around such a device for IT reasons. Now I am putting limits on my digital life, and it makes me socially "weird".
  - ryandrake 2y ago
    Wait, destitute people who have nothing are asking to send money through a smartphone app?? I'd argue the world is weird, not us.
    - crazygringo 2y ago
      Why is that weird? Almost nobody carries around small cash or change anymore. And social services provide the homeless and those in poverty with free smartphones, since they're far more effective at ensuring communications with social services. So how is the world weird? It all seems quite rational and reasonable to me.
  - joseda-hg 2y ago
    OTOH Currently, the only thing I don't pay regularly by using a smart device, are bus fares, which are a solved problem, my city just hasn't implemented that yet Everything else, I can either use a digital wallet for, or an instant bank transfer (Which I've been given to understand are a bit more of a hassle in the US) I'd basically never expect to be without a device for an extended period of time, specially not in an airport I am aware of the single point of failure though, so I do take particular care of not running out of battery, keeping an accesible spare, and some cash around for emergencies I just never use it
- crazygringo 2y ago
  Yup, that's definitely weird. Most people get pretty bored going to the airport, in line at the airport, waiting for boarding, waiting to take off, during the flight. A smartphone loaded with books and magazine articles and podcasts seems pretty essential by this point for nearly everyone. Not to mention loved ones who want to reach you by text or phone...
  - what 2y ago
    You’re supposed to raw dog the flight.
- kelnos 2y ago
  I won't call it "weird", because generally I like the idea that some people aren't actually glued to their phone at all times, and don't even have it handy. But I will call it unusual, because the vast majority of people will have their phone in their pocket or purse while at the airport.
jjav 2y ago
> I don't think most people worry about that at all. Why wouldn't it be available? If you're heading to the airport from home, your battery is charged. You're assuming the phone works and the internet connection works and the app works and the service behind it responsive. That's a lot of trust in thousands of moving parts. Meanwhile I have a printed boarding pass which depends on nothing other than me having it in my pocket, so it basically 100% fail-proof. While I always use the paper boarding pass, I do also check the boarding pass on the app out of curiosity. Easily like half the time on the American Airlines app, when I'm at the gate about to board and click on show boarding pass, the app hangs for many minutes and never responds. I'm always glad I have the paper boarding pass in my pocket instead.
- kelnos 2y ago
  > You're assuming the phone works and the internet connection works and the app works and the service behind it responsive At check-in (24 hours before my flight), I add the boarding pass to Google Wallet. From that point, displaying it doesn't require an internet connection, or having to rely on the airline's often-shitty app. Yes, the phone has to not be broken, but that's a pretty low bar: in my 15 years of owning smartphones, my phone has been broken and unusable for perhaps a grand total of a few days of time (so under 0.01% of the time). Yes, Google Wallet has to be functioning, but that particular app being broken would be an unusual, surprising occurrence. And if by 0.01% chance, I can't get the boarding pass off my phone for some reason, I can always go to the check-in desk or kiosk or gate and ask them to print me one. > Meanwhile I have a printed boarding pass which depends on nothing other than me having it in my pocket, so it basically 100% fail-proof. I've never lost a phone before, but I have lost paper boarding passes on more than one occasion. The point is that the mobile boarding pass is a nice convenience (especially with the auto-updating gate number on it), but the ability to get a paper boarding pass printed is never far away if the mobile one fails. So why not just use the mobile one, and save some paper, and the need to keep track of one more item?