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This is accurate at the macro level, but on the micro level the insurance companies are doing nasty insurance company stuff like doubling rates in ~5 years, req

This is accurate at the macro level, but on the micro level the insurance companies are doing nasty insurance company stuff like doubling rates in ~5 years, requiring people to replace their roofs every 10 years instead of every 30 years (at their own expense) and low balling claims expecting most people to not hire a lawyer to fight for them when their house is in shambles. They've really gotten shady over the last few years. These aren't fly-by-night insurance companies, these are companies you've all heard of that make hundreds of billions of dollars a year, companies with blue logos and red logos; how American. The other problem is, as most of you may know, to get a home loan to buy a house, you are required by the banks to carry insurance. This makes it a near monopoly that these companies are taking full advantage of. I'm sure the legislature is happy to take campaign contributions from these companies to ensure the status quo. No one will get arrested. You know the drill. I agree insurance will be more expensive in a hurricane prone area, but all the shady stuff is what people are complaining about.

jghn 2y ago
As a state, they consistently vote for politicians who are anti-regulation and pro-capitalism. What do they expect to happen here?
- OneDeuxTriSeiGo 2y ago
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- Clubber 2y ago
  I think the last Democrat who ran against DeSantis got caught smoking crack in a hotel room with a male hooker. Florida doesn't seem to have a lot of great choices. Pick the corrupt person, red or blue. To be fair, a lot of Democratic politicians destroyed their economies with extended lockdowns, and also being extremely generous with prosecuting theft, among other things, so Florida isn't the only one with bad choices. I'm not defending DeSantis, but it seems the job of US politician attracts a certain type of person, regardless of what color their flag is. The longer they stay in, the more comfortable they get with being, lets say, morally flexible.
  - acdha 2y ago
    Wasn’t his last opponent Charlie Crist in 2022? He didn’t seem to be a bad choice.
    - Clubber 2y ago
      Yes, you're right. Crist was a Republican governor before but he switched to Democrat last cycle. He was decent as far as I remember, but I was too young when he was governor and wasn't paying much attention. I wanted Crist to win last cycle; DeStantis really went off the handle starting with his second term. His first term was ok.
  - koolba 2y ago
    > I think the last Democrat who ran against DeSantis got caught smoking crack in a hotel room with a male hooker. Florida doesn't seem to have a lot of great choices. Pick the corrupt person, red or blue. The was from DeSantis's first election for governor. The Democrat was Andrew Gillum, mayor of Tallahasee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Gillum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Gillum And it was meth, not crack, with a male hooker. But that was after he had already lost the election. What's crazier is how close that election was. The spread was 0.4%. That's ~30K votes out of 8+M. The 2022 reelection spread with DeSantis arguably at the peak of his popularity was 19.4% which is a landslide by all measures.
    - bilbo0s 2y ago
      Well, then it sounds like they got what they wanted. If the numbers are to be believed, they got what they really wanted. Which is why the rest of the nation is happy for them! They have the government they want and deserve. And I'm sure that government will sort out their problems in a fashion consistent with that government's beliefs, and therefore, also consistent with the desires of the people of Florida. So everyone is getting what they wanted here. Really there is no problem.
      - ineedaj0b 2y ago
        You've heard of Elon talk of 'the woke mind virus'? Whether or not it's a thing, there is a concept of memetic viruses like computer viruses. There's also 'psy-ops', but psy-ops are usually intentional and pushed by some group, whereas mind viruses arise unintentionally. A few others: Anti-Vaccine, Flat Earth, Doomscrolling, Productivity etc. Well there's another. It captures people in their late 20s and 30s. It's getting political. It's getting far to ensconced in politics. You should treat politics like you are work at HF and your job is to find base reality truth. If not you become well, one of those guys, and unless you work in Government - no one wants to hear it. California (largest state) burning is not good. Florida (3rd largest state) having rising house costs is not good. Don't get captured by tribalism.
- hollywood_court 2y ago
  No one shoots themselves in the foot more often than GOP voters. It’s wild to watch folks like my SIL (a teacher) and my BIL (a combat veteran with no other marketable skills) vote against their own self interests every time they select a GOP candidate. These folks have spent decades doing everything they can to make life more difficult for teachers and veterans. Yet teachers and veterans will still line up to elect these people.
  - Clubber 2y ago
    See, the problem with two political parties is you get a lot of baggage for a couple of things you like. So you're basically voting for two piles of shit that may say one or two things you like. Did I like lockdowns? No, Do I like corrupt insurance, also no. The way I see it is the Democrats are for the really poor people and the really rich people, of which I'm neither. The GOP is for the really rich people, of which I am not. Neither party has any interesting restoring any type of freedoms, they both want to ban stuff they don't like. The middle class really has no real representation, and that's why we're dying.
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      they both want to ban stuff they don't like. genuinely curious which stuff do democrats want to ban?
      - hollywood_court 2y ago
        I’m curious to hear the answer as well. Maybe they’ll say something about guns. But we all know Republicans basically invented modern gun control. Democrats want to ban things like unvaxxed children. Which sounds like a great idea. Especially looking at the current measles outbreak in Texas.
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    - Arainach 2y ago
      In the last 4 years the Democrats expanded overtime eligibility, ramped up antitrust enforcement, got inflation under control, cracked down on junk fees, forgave billions in student loan debt, invested in domestic manufacturing, invested in infrastructure spending (unlike Trump's "infrastructure week" that was talked about for his entire term and never happened), prosecuted companies for union busting, added penalties for airlines who abuse customers, and so many other things. Anyone who claims "both are the same" and "neither does not anything for the middle class" is being willfully ignorant.

jghn 2y ago

As a state, they consistently vote for politicians who are anti-regulation and pro-capitalism. What do they expect to happen here?

OneDeuxTriSeiGo 2y ago
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Clubber 2y ago
I think the last Democrat who ran against DeSantis got caught smoking crack in a hotel room with a male hooker. Florida doesn't seem to have a lot of great choices. Pick the corrupt person, red or blue. To be fair, a lot of Democratic politicians destroyed their economies with extended lockdowns, and also being extremely generous with prosecuting theft, among other things, so Florida isn't the only one with bad choices. I'm not defending DeSantis, but it seems the job of US politician attracts a certain type of person, regardless of what color their flag is. The longer they stay in, the more comfortable they get with being, lets say, morally flexible.
- acdha 2y ago
  Wasn’t his last opponent Charlie Crist in 2022? He didn’t seem to be a bad choice.
  - Clubber 2y ago
    Yes, you're right. Crist was a Republican governor before but he switched to Democrat last cycle. He was decent as far as I remember, but I was too young when he was governor and wasn't paying much attention. I wanted Crist to win last cycle; DeStantis really went off the handle starting with his second term. His first term was ok.
- koolba 2y ago
  > I think the last Democrat who ran against DeSantis got caught smoking crack in a hotel room with a male hooker. Florida doesn't seem to have a lot of great choices. Pick the corrupt person, red or blue. The was from DeSantis's first election for governor. The Democrat was Andrew Gillum, mayor of Tallahasee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Gillum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Gillum And it was meth, not crack, with a male hooker. But that was after he had already lost the election. What's crazier is how close that election was. The spread was 0.4%. That's ~30K votes out of 8+M. The 2022 reelection spread with DeSantis arguably at the peak of his popularity was 19.4% which is a landslide by all measures.
  - bilbo0s 2y ago
    Well, then it sounds like they got what they wanted. If the numbers are to be believed, they got what they really wanted. Which is why the rest of the nation is happy for them! They have the government they want and deserve. And I'm sure that government will sort out their problems in a fashion consistent with that government's beliefs, and therefore, also consistent with the desires of the people of Florida. So everyone is getting what they wanted here. Really there is no problem.
    - ineedaj0b 2y ago
      You've heard of Elon talk of 'the woke mind virus'? Whether or not it's a thing, there is a concept of memetic viruses like computer viruses. There's also 'psy-ops', but psy-ops are usually intentional and pushed by some group, whereas mind viruses arise unintentionally. A few others: Anti-Vaccine, Flat Earth, Doomscrolling, Productivity etc. Well there's another. It captures people in their late 20s and 30s. It's getting political. It's getting far to ensconced in politics. You should treat politics like you are work at HF and your job is to find base reality truth. If not you become well, one of those guys, and unless you work in Government - no one wants to hear it. California (largest state) burning is not good. Florida (3rd largest state) having rising house costs is not good. Don't get captured by tribalism.
hollywood_court 2y ago
No one shoots themselves in the foot more often than GOP voters. It’s wild to watch folks like my SIL (a teacher) and my BIL (a combat veteran with no other marketable skills) vote against their own self interests every time they select a GOP candidate. These folks have spent decades doing everything they can to make life more difficult for teachers and veterans. Yet teachers and veterans will still line up to elect these people.
- Clubber 2y ago
  See, the problem with two political parties is you get a lot of baggage for a couple of things you like. So you're basically voting for two piles of shit that may say one or two things you like. Did I like lockdowns? No, Do I like corrupt insurance, also no. The way I see it is the Democrats are for the really poor people and the really rich people, of which I'm neither. The GOP is for the really rich people, of which I am not. Neither party has any interesting restoring any type of freedoms, they both want to ban stuff they don't like. The middle class really has no real representation, and that's why we're dying.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    they both want to ban stuff they don't like. genuinely curious which stuff do democrats want to ban?
    - hollywood_court 2y ago
      I’m curious to hear the answer as well. Maybe they’ll say something about guns. But we all know Republicans basically invented modern gun control. Democrats want to ban things like unvaxxed children. Which sounds like a great idea. Especially looking at the current measles outbreak in Texas.
    - deleted 2y ago
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  - Arainach 2y ago
    In the last 4 years the Democrats expanded overtime eligibility, ramped up antitrust enforcement, got inflation under control, cracked down on junk fees, forgave billions in student loan debt, invested in domestic manufacturing, invested in infrastructure spending (unlike Trump's "infrastructure week" that was talked about for his entire term and never happened), prosecuted companies for union busting, added penalties for airlines who abuse customers, and so many other things. Anyone who claims "both are the same" and "neither does not anything for the middle class" is being willfully ignorant.