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I have a Tesla with so-called FSD in Europe, and it still feels like it’s ten years away from being road-safe. It can’t even recognize speed limit signs correct

by pavlov 2y ago

I have a Tesla with so-called FSD in Europe, and it still feels like it’s ten years away from being road-safe. It can’t even recognize speed limit signs correctly. I bought this car six years ago paying for the FSD feature upfront, and since then Tesla and their CEO have been constantly lying about it. I’ll never buy another car from this company just for this reason. I think Musk probably sees the writing on the wall. Tesla’s brand is destroyed in Europe and they can’t ship these promised advanced features in this market. But he doesn’t mind giving up the European market because he’s got a sweet deal at home where his businesses are now part of a 1930s-style union between corporations and authoritarian government. The gains from that arrangement far outweigh the headaches of trying to sell cars globally.

qwerpy 2y ago
Counterpoint, I helped my father buy a model Y and it helps him do the 2 hour drive to visit his grandchildren. The FSD marketing has been a bit over the top but it’s still the best system by far.
- pavlov 2y ago
  In Europe? I believe it works better in the US. Elsewhere in the world it’s still practically useless, yet they’ve been selling it for years on the pretense that it’s just around the corner. Cruise control on a Volkswagen is smarter than “FSD” on a Tesla. It’s just sad for a 7,500 euro feature.
  - qwerpy 2y ago
    They probably should not have offered it in Europe until they figured it out in their home country. Too many different things to handle in all the different countries.
    - Sammi 2y ago
      Yeah but they did, and now the Europeans hate them. They ripped people off and people are pissed.
_DeadFred_ 2y ago
Don forget that while Musk talks trash about defending freedom, the US government, and astronauts he says nothing about China with whom he has very unique business arrangements (not as strict as most US companies there).

by pavlov 2y ago

qwerpy 2y ago

Counterpoint, I helped my father buy a model Y and it helps him do the 2 hour drive to visit his grandchildren. The FSD marketing has been a bit over the top but it’s still the best system by far.

pavlov 2y ago
In Europe? I believe it works better in the US. Elsewhere in the world it’s still practically useless, yet they’ve been selling it for years on the pretense that it’s just around the corner. Cruise control on a Volkswagen is smarter than “FSD” on a Tesla. It’s just sad for a 7,500 euro feature.
- qwerpy 2y ago
  They probably should not have offered it in Europe until they figured it out in their home country. Too many different things to handle in all the different countries.
  - Sammi 2y ago
    Yeah but they did, and now the Europeans hate them. They ripped people off and people are pissed.

_DeadFred_ 2y ago

Don forget that while Musk talks trash about defending freedom, the US government, and astronauts he says nothing about China with whom he has very unique business arrangements (not as strict as most US companies there).