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I'd love to have a robot vacuum but all I checked last time had wifi connectivity and advanced sensors to build accurate map of our home uploaded to an app of m

I'd love to have a robot vacuum but all I checked last time had wifi connectivity and advanced sensors to build accurate map of our home uploaded to an app of my phone with who knows what capabilities. Some even had camera. All they missed some mic to listen in on us, however since some are connected to Alexa that is a wish fulfilled for many. - Alexa, wipe up that spill in the bedroom. - Sorry, that requires deep clean, but you had some credit left on your second credit card so I ordeered a deep clening service for Tuesday when you are away.

imglorp 2y ago
Some of these vacuums will work without the Wi-Fi. You will have to do without automatic features, for example you have to push the button every time to get it to start, but if you just want it to do the whole area it will run and return to base. It's enough for my area
mrgoldenbrown 2y ago
Your robot vacuum is basically a mobile camera all your neighbors can access https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-11/robot-vacuum-yells-racial-slurs-at-family-after-being-hacked/104445408 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-11/robot-vacuum-yells-ra...
Epa095 2y ago
FYI there is https://github.com/Hypfer/Valetudo https://github.com/Hypfer/Valetudo which acts as a replacement of the cloud service. I'd you buy one of the supported devices you root it to point to the Valetudo server (which you run yourselves). You can then put the robot on its own WiFi without Internet access if you want to be even more secure.
- mihaaly 2y ago
  Thanks for the tip. But I am just a user and this is just a vacuum. I rather focus on other than jumping hoops for the products of the indecent manufactureres. While saving a lot of money as bonus. I think I will cope without it.
- genewitch 2y ago
  no need to root it if you have a decent "router" stack. fortigates can re-route even hard-coded IPs to internal services ;-) i am sure others can too, i just know we had to use the fortigate to fix a hard-coded IP that was breaking something. i think it was a fog device, even.
  - Epa095 2y ago
    Do you know if this works with any vacuums? I would assume they used https and would notice that man-in-the-middle attack.
    - genewitch 2y ago
      I am not an expert network engineer so i asked the one that manages the fortigate: > it'll work for whatever ports or application you want since it's a layer 7 firewall
rolph 2y ago
how many of these end up being used for dirty purposes rather than cleaning purposes. not just accidental bathroom pix, but blatant porn.

imglorp 2y ago

Some of these vacuums will work without the Wi-Fi. You will have to do without automatic features, for example you have to push the button every time to get it to start, but if you just want it to do the whole area it will run and return to base. It's enough for my area

mrgoldenbrown 2y ago

Your robot vacuum is basically a mobile camera all your neighbors can access https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-11/robot-vacuum-yells-racial-slurs-at-family-after-being-hacked/104445408 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-11/robot-vacuum-yells-ra...

Epa095 2y ago

FYI there is https://github.com/Hypfer/Valetudo https://github.com/Hypfer/Valetudo which acts as a replacement of the cloud service. I'd you buy one of the supported devices you root it to point to the Valetudo server (which you run yourselves). You can then put the robot on its own WiFi without Internet access if you want to be even more secure.

mihaaly 2y ago
Thanks for the tip. But I am just a user and this is just a vacuum. I rather focus on other than jumping hoops for the products of the indecent manufactureres. While saving a lot of money as bonus. I think I will cope without it.
genewitch 2y ago
no need to root it if you have a decent "router" stack. fortigates can re-route even hard-coded IPs to internal services ;-) i am sure others can too, i just know we had to use the fortigate to fix a hard-coded IP that was breaking something. i think it was a fog device, even.
- Epa095 2y ago
  Do you know if this works with any vacuums? I would assume they used https and would notice that man-in-the-middle attack.
  - genewitch 2y ago
    I am not an expert network engineer so i asked the one that manages the fortigate: > it'll work for whatever ports or application you want since it's a layer 7 firewall

rolph 2y ago

how many of these end up being used for dirty purposes rather than cleaning purposes. not just accidental bathroom pix, but blatant porn.