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No one. No one wants to work in the factory. The US is an advanced economy and the population wants advanced jobs with advanced pay. Stamping sheet steel all da

No one. No one wants to work in the factory. The US is an advanced economy and the population wants advanced jobs with advanced pay. Stamping sheet steel all day for $28/hr in a hot warehouse? No thanks. Maintaining a login page for $64/hr from your couch? Yes please.

edflsafoiewq 2y ago
No one wants to work retail either. So what?
Kim_Bruning 2y ago
Who says factory work is all about stamping sheet steel all day? How about getting to debug your code with a forklift? O:-) Been there, done that. Overhead crane too! Or dealing with software crashes leading to hardware crashes ... using a hydraulic jack. Or "Kiiiim, it's an electrical hardware failure, I can't fix that!" "Well that, or we could ask this here electrotechnician who's standing right next to us?" Speaking of: A freelance electrotechnician brings in about Eur 100 per hour around these parts, and gets to go on adventures around the world, because they're always in demand.
- yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
  > How about getting to debug your code with a forklift? O:-) What does that mean? You're... debugging a forklift, or using a forklift as a debugging tool?
  - Kim_Bruning 2y ago
    In my case: forklift as a debugging tool! If you write code for an intelligent conveyor system, at some point you're going need to do an integration test to see if it actually works. So far, I haven't had a chance to do the opposite yet; I haven't had a chance to debug any sort of forklift. Yet.
- ty6853 2y ago
  How much of that 100 eurobucks is liability insurance on getting sued for a gazillion dollars because you forgot to tighten a bolt once a decade after being kept up by a cranky toddler?
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missedthecue 2y ago
It's even more extreme than that. A lot of Americans would rather do an email job for $70k a year than weld hulls together in a shipyard for $100k a year.
- ty6853 2y ago
  When I was studying engineering I applied for every highly paid blue collar and trades job imaginable to try and escape a career at a desk. It isn't as easy as some think to get into. In the end I received my engineering degree before anyone would give me a chance, 5 years and thousands of failed applications later.
scarface_74 2y ago
That $28/hr puts you close to the median wage in the US. https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/ https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/

edflsafoiewq 2y ago

No one wants to work retail either. So what?

Kim_Bruning 2y ago

Who says factory work is all about stamping sheet steel all day? How about getting to debug your code with a forklift? O:-) Been there, done that. Overhead crane too! Or dealing with software crashes leading to hardware crashes ... using a hydraulic jack. Or "Kiiiim, it's an electrical hardware failure, I can't fix that!" "Well that, or we could ask this here electrotechnician who's standing right next to us?" Speaking of: A freelance electrotechnician brings in about Eur 100 per hour around these parts, and gets to go on adventures around the world, because they're always in demand.

yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
> How about getting to debug your code with a forklift? O:-) What does that mean? You're... debugging a forklift, or using a forklift as a debugging tool?
- Kim_Bruning 2y ago
  In my case: forklift as a debugging tool! If you write code for an intelligent conveyor system, at some point you're going need to do an integration test to see if it actually works. So far, I haven't had a chance to do the opposite yet; I haven't had a chance to debug any sort of forklift. Yet.
ty6853 2y ago
How much of that 100 eurobucks is liability insurance on getting sued for a gazillion dollars because you forgot to tighten a bolt once a decade after being kept up by a cranky toddler?

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missedthecue 2y ago

It's even more extreme than that. A lot of Americans would rather do an email job for $70k a year than weld hulls together in a shipyard for $100k a year.

ty6853 2y ago
When I was studying engineering I applied for every highly paid blue collar and trades job imaginable to try and escape a career at a desk. It isn't as easy as some think to get into. In the end I received my engineering degree before anyone would give me a chance, 5 years and thousands of failed applications later.

scarface_74 2y ago

That $28/hr puts you close to the median wage in the US. https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/ https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/