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This is an initiative I want to support, but after reading both stories - you're making the mistake of having a good-faith argument with bad faith actors, compa
by breakitmakeit 2y ago
This is an initiative I want to support, but after reading both stories - you're making the mistake of having a good-faith argument with bad faith actors, comparing approaches as if you are chasing the same objective from different principles.
DOGE is not trying to find efficiency. DOGE is trying to funnel money from the people to the powerful. DOGE is actively part of a project to destroy the government. DOGE does not give a damn.
- mmastrac 2y agoI don't think they are trying to have a good-faith argument with DOGE -- I think they are trying to appeal to the hopefully-still-extant, sane, slight majority of Americans.
- brickfaced 2y ago[flagged]
- pineaux 2y agoExplain to me in English why that statement is a progressive left statement.
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- dang 2y agoCould you also please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- dang 2y agoCould you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- robin_reala 2y agoWhen the right shifted the Overton window to include full-blown authoritarian fascism.
- brickfaced 2y agoYes, I and others on the right support full-blown authoritarian fascist positions like "freedom of speech"
- scottLobster 2y agoYou mean like this freedom of speech? https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/elon-musk-to-fix-community-notes-after-they-contradict-trump/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/elon-musk-to-fix... You and others on the right, as a group in 2025, only argue for freedom of speech when it suits you. Yes, the left does this too, and it's just as despicable.
- dang 2y agoThis is an illusion - see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870 - the examples are old now, but the point hasn't changed. Why this illusion, and how, you may ask? I can tell you why and how! It's because people are far more likely to notice the data points they dislike (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20notice%20dislike&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...). Not only that, but the dislikeables make a stronger impression when you do notice them. This is why people with strong feelings on a topic always feel like the site is going to the dogs—they're unintentionally blotting out the other data. --- Edit: here are more recent examples in case helpful (what can I say, it's a hobby) The HN crowd is far right - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41370117 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41370117 libertarian tech bro site - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41674836 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41674836 a haven for alt-right trolls and hateful abusers - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41799329 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41799329 HN has also been taken over by fascists - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42059688 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42059688 techno-libertarian pseudo-intellectual fascists - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42393303 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42393303 HN has gone way to the authoritarian right - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42066014 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42066014 tows the line when it comes to techno-fascism - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42781203 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42781203 Hacker News is pretty much far right when it comes to politics - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42618465 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42618465 I've got just as many pointing the other way, of course, but the valuable examples point opposite to the illusion. That is, if I were replying to one of these (^^^^) commenters, I'd point them to your post instead! See also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13110004 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13110004 (Dec 2016) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25391526 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25391526 (Dec 2020) https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%2013110004&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
- brickfaced 2y agoIt's not an illusion. I've been on HN across various accounts for over a decade. There is a hard liberal-progressive tilt to comments and post flagging which has been documented and remarked upon by others on sites where such comments don't get flagged and removed. Your own bias is also quite obvious, as is that of pg, who is now known on Twitter as a block-happy liberal lolcow. But thanks for posting all that, I'm glad Bolsheviks seething at Mensheviks haven't escaped your attention.
- pineaux 2y ago[flagged]
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- cmrdporcupine 2y agoI wouldn't bother engaging with this kind of comment. Hackernews is not the place for back and forth personal slinging. Just flag it and move on, we should try to keep things civil.
- paulgb 2y agoDOGE is not the audience of this.
- Romanulus 2y agoCan you explain to me why funneling US tax dollars to other nations is a bad thing?