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Apple has plenty of money to burn on R&D projects that might be very important in the future. Everyone expects iPhone or nothing though.

• dylan604 2y ago
  How many iterations of fail did they go through before getting to the iPhone though? Have we forgotten about the Newton?
  • rchaud 2y ago
    Why would you have to go that far back? The iPhone's predecessor is the Moto ROKR, a music phone from 2005 made in collaboration with Apple. The design of the 2007 iPhone is primarily influenced by the Dieter Rams-y minimalism of the iPod and the LG Prada touchscreen phone from 2006.
    • dylan604 2y ago
      Because the Newton was Apple's first attempt at the handheld device that was clearly the precursor to the iPhone that was a failure. If you can't see the reason for the Newton reference, you're just not looking at it in the right way. Maybe try tilting your head and squinting
  • asadotzler 2y ago
    iPhone had over 10M users in year 2. AVP will have a couple hundred thousand users at the end of year 2. There's no polishing this turd, even hearkening back to other slow starts. This isn't a slow start to a ramp, it's hitting a brick wall with customers who simply don't want it, like Newton, like iPod HiFi, like original HomePod. It's a dud and the second year cannot fix that given Apple's tiny stock and almost non-existent demand for all of year 2.