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My partner has difficulty sleep unless it is the perfect environment (black out curtains, noise cancellation, sound bath, temperature), and is more prone to the

My partner has difficulty sleep unless it is the perfect environment (black out curtains, noise cancellation, sound bath, temperature), and is more prone to the effects of a single bad nights sleep. For people like her, $20/mo + $2000 fee is a small price to pay for a solution to a very difficult problem. I would of course, attempt to veto unnecessary IoT devices and subscriptions for usage, but this would be a fight I would likely not win.

squeaky-clean 2y ago
They're not complaining about the price. They're complaining about the high price for a bed where those high priced features stop working if your internet goes down, or there is a server outage, or you stop paying a monthly fee, or the original company goes bankrupt.
binarymax 2y ago
How in the world does this necessitate a subscription? All of these things can work without centralization, setup once, and contained entirely within the home.
- balls187 2y ago
  > How in the world does this necessitate a subscription? I can only speculate. But, there is demand to improve sleep quality. The provider wants to charge a monthly fee for that. The market simply puts buys and sellers together. People making business decisions will stick with Econ 101--charge what the market will bare, and why shouldn't they?
  - hn_acc1 2y ago
    >charge what they market will bare They want you to sleep without any clothing?
exe34 2y ago
She won't get any sleep if the wifi is down.
- balls187 2y ago
  Or if the power is out.
geodel 2y ago
I think there is some naming convention gap here. I would call it Sleep Equipment as we have exercise equipments. Then folks will find pricing more reasonable. There is further opportunity to differentiate market with Sleep, Sleep Pro and Sleep Enterprise products. The pro and enterprise version would allow local server setup for critical sleep equipment functioning and can manage all beds in a household or hotel etc . It can update the version of software or data models when its online and new features are available on cloud server. I surmise at 300 dollar/month for pro version could be really attractive proposition. Of course local server setup and maintenance can be charged separately.
pgh 2y ago
If you don’t want IOT for the bed warmer/chiller then there’s this: https://sleep.me/product/cube-sleep-system https://sleep.me/product/cube-sleep-system It works rather well, I’m tempted to reverse-engineer the remote control protocol for home automation purposes.

squeaky-clean 2y ago

They're not complaining about the price. They're complaining about the high price for a bed where those high priced features stop working if your internet goes down, or there is a server outage, or you stop paying a monthly fee, or the original company goes bankrupt.

binarymax 2y ago

How in the world does this necessitate a subscription? All of these things can work without centralization, setup once, and contained entirely within the home.

balls187 2y ago
> How in the world does this necessitate a subscription? I can only speculate. But, there is demand to improve sleep quality. The provider wants to charge a monthly fee for that. The market simply puts buys and sellers together. People making business decisions will stick with Econ 101--charge what the market will bare, and why shouldn't they?
- hn_acc1 2y ago
  >charge what they market will bare They want you to sleep without any clothing?

exe34 2y ago

She won't get any sleep if the wifi is down.

balls187 2y ago
Or if the power is out.

geodel 2y ago

I think there is some naming convention gap here. I would call it Sleep Equipment as we have exercise equipments. Then folks will find pricing more reasonable. There is further opportunity to differentiate market with Sleep, Sleep Pro and Sleep Enterprise products. The pro and enterprise version would allow local server setup for critical sleep equipment functioning and can manage all beds in a household or hotel etc . It can update the version of software or data models when its online and new features are available on cloud server. I surmise at 300 dollar/month for pro version could be really attractive proposition. Of course local server setup and maintenance can be charged separately.

pgh 2y ago

If you don’t want IOT for the bed warmer/chiller then there’s this: https://sleep.me/product/cube-sleep-system https://sleep.me/product/cube-sleep-system It works rather well, I’m tempted to reverse-engineer the remote control protocol for home automation purposes.