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What are you actually supposed to do in the UK if you oppose this sort of thing to stop laws like this coming in? It feels like the government has been incredib

What are you actually supposed to do in the UK if you oppose this sort of thing to stop laws like this coming in? It feels like the government has been incredibly out of touch for the last number of years.

redox99 2y ago
I would guess you'd vote a libertarian party.
- Apfel 2y ago
  Probably the best on the civil liberties front are the Liberal Democrats (they were pretty good at quashing mandatory national ID cards back in the day, at least). That being said, they still have a lot of folk angry at them for allowing university fees to be introduced 15 years ago when they were in coalition government (a Tory policy!).
IneffablePigeon 2y ago
Join the ORG for starters. Contact your MP. But yes, the number of people who care is small and so things will not change until it is large.
i2km 2y ago
You get the hell out and emigrate. I did so last year. It's not going to get better chap
- globular-toast 2y ago
  Where did you go?
nobankai 2y ago
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- aqueueaqueue 2y ago
  That doesn't help. Next they'll come for the privacy phones.
  - nobankai 2y ago
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    - aqueueaqueue 2y ago
      New Law: "Usage of an unsanctioned phone by a manufacturer not certified as meeting the UK privacy standards is illegal to operate.". You fight the less draconian draconian law to avoid needing to fight the worse one.
      - nobankai 2y ago
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        aqueueaqueue 2y ago
        Most people comply including those you interact with.
        seabass-labrax 2y ago
        > UK's other notoriously effective regulations like... checks clipboard ...TV licenses and the alcohol ban on public transport I'm not quite sure what you are getting at with this, but I'd like to add some context for others. There is no blanket restriction on alcohol consumption on public transport in the UK. Individual transport operators are allowed to prohibit drinking as a contractual requirement (very common for bus companies); alternatively, local councils can establish a bylaw to restrict it more generally. However, people can and do drink on the majority of British trains; some even sell alcoholic drinks on-board. As for TV licences, the majority of households with residents who watch TV do indeed pay it. The evasion rate is estimated at around 10%: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8101/ https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-...
maeil 2y ago
> It feels like the government has been incredibly out of touch for the last number of years. Did you vote for any single one of them? If you did, then what you're supposed to do is stop voting for Tory-lite governments (such as the current one). If you didn't vote for any of these governments (including this one), everything else that you could do would be dangerous nowadays.

redox99 2y ago

I would guess you'd vote a libertarian party.

Apfel 2y ago
Probably the best on the civil liberties front are the Liberal Democrats (they were pretty good at quashing mandatory national ID cards back in the day, at least). That being said, they still have a lot of folk angry at them for allowing university fees to be introduced 15 years ago when they were in coalition government (a Tory policy!).

IneffablePigeon 2y ago

Join the ORG for starters. Contact your MP. But yes, the number of people who care is small and so things will not change until it is large.

i2km 2y ago

You get the hell out and emigrate. I did so last year. It's not going to get better chap

globular-toast 2y ago
Where did you go?

nobankai 2y ago

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aqueueaqueue 2y ago
That doesn't help. Next they'll come for the privacy phones.
- nobankai 2y ago
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  - aqueueaqueue 2y ago
    New Law: "Usage of an unsanctioned phone by a manufacturer not certified as meeting the UK privacy standards is illegal to operate.". You fight the less draconian draconian law to avoid needing to fight the worse one.
    - nobankai 2y ago
      [flagged]
      - aqueueaqueue 2y ago
        Most people comply including those you interact with.
      - seabass-labrax 2y ago
        > UK's other notoriously effective regulations like... checks clipboard ...TV licenses and the alcohol ban on public transport I'm not quite sure what you are getting at with this, but I'd like to add some context for others. There is no blanket restriction on alcohol consumption on public transport in the UK. Individual transport operators are allowed to prohibit drinking as a contractual requirement (very common for bus companies); alternatively, local councils can establish a bylaw to restrict it more generally. However, people can and do drink on the majority of British trains; some even sell alcoholic drinks on-board. As for TV licences, the majority of households with residents who watch TV do indeed pay it. The evasion rate is estimated at around 10%: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8101/ https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-...

maeil 2y ago

> It feels like the government has been incredibly out of touch for the last number of years. Did you vote for any single one of them? If you did, then what you're supposed to do is stop voting for Tory-lite governments (such as the current one). If you didn't vote for any of these governments (including this one), everything else that you could do would be dangerous nowadays.