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This was Brexits doing. As we are no longer EU, we have our own cool rules such as the upcoming PM allowed to watch me take a piss law.

zimpenfish 2y ago
> This was Brexits doing. Not really? We've had horrors like the 2000 RIP[0] well before Brexit. The Blair government made a huge dent in civil liberties and the Tories carried it on. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Powers_Act_2000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Po...
- Jigsy 2y ago
  This is one of the reasons why I will never vote Labour. The UK has always hated not allowing people to self-incriminate, though...
  - zimpenfish 2y ago
    > This is one of the reasons why I will never vote Labour. The Tories are generally worse. But I agree it's currently a case of "lesser of two evils".
    - Jigsy 2y ago
      I wouldn't vote for Tory either. I usually vote for Lib Dem. Though they do things from time to time I don't like...
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      - doublerabbit 2y ago
        This is why Scotland needs independence. It was once and with it chained by the UK, they're squeezing everything they can. Look at Wales, just pets for the UK. Scotland is an actually pretty awesome country but like Canada is kept pet by a leader. The only thing that could save this shitshow is Scotland getting independence. Lets be honest here. You thought Boris Johnson was bad ripping holes left right and center. Trump makes Boris look like a pet rat. And that's an insult to real rats.
        int_19h 2y ago
        I may be wrong here, but my impression of Scottish politics is that it's just as paternalistic and nanny-state if not more so.
        doublerabbit 2y ago
        Yes and no. But Scottish politics have more progressive. Ultimately Scotland is governed by the UK so any first party rounds are annulled before they get a chance by the UK.
sunaookami 2y ago
The EU is currently planning exactly the same thing with Chat Control.
- nickslaughter02 2y ago
  What EU is planning with chat control is much worse. The UK still requires a warrant to access your iCloud data. EU wants to force companies to install spyware on your devices that will monitor whatever you send or receive in real time without any probable cause or suspicion.
- dumbledoren 2y ago
  Eu isnt 'planning' anything like that. Some Euparl MPs backed by people like Ashton Kutcher tried to push a law to spy on all chat apps. Then when the dirty web of American-style regulatory manipulation was exposed, they backed off. It was a proposal for a law by some MPs. Not something 'Eu' did.
  - sunaookami 2y ago
    They backed off "for now". They are trying this for ages, did you forget about ACTA and Von der Leyen's past censorship attempts in Germany? Have you read the DSA? Of course the EU is planning to go full authoritian in the name of "protecting democracy".

zimpenfish 2y ago

> This was Brexits doing. Not really? We've had horrors like the 2000 RIP[0] well before Brexit. The Blair government made a huge dent in civil liberties and the Tories carried it on. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Powers_Act_2000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Po...

Jigsy 2y ago
This is one of the reasons why I will never vote Labour. The UK has always hated not allowing people to self-incriminate, though...
- zimpenfish 2y ago
  > This is one of the reasons why I will never vote Labour. The Tories are generally worse. But I agree it's currently a case of "lesser of two evils".
  - Jigsy 2y ago
    I wouldn't vote for Tory either. I usually vote for Lib Dem. Though they do things from time to time I don't like...
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
    - doublerabbit 2y ago
      This is why Scotland needs independence. It was once and with it chained by the UK, they're squeezing everything they can. Look at Wales, just pets for the UK. Scotland is an actually pretty awesome country but like Canada is kept pet by a leader. The only thing that could save this shitshow is Scotland getting independence. Lets be honest here. You thought Boris Johnson was bad ripping holes left right and center. Trump makes Boris look like a pet rat. And that's an insult to real rats.
      - int_19h 2y ago
        I may be wrong here, but my impression of Scottish politics is that it's just as paternalistic and nanny-state if not more so.
        doublerabbit 2y ago
        Yes and no. But Scottish politics have more progressive. Ultimately Scotland is governed by the UK so any first party rounds are annulled before they get a chance by the UK.

sunaookami 2y ago

The EU is currently planning exactly the same thing with Chat Control.

nickslaughter02 2y ago
What EU is planning with chat control is much worse. The UK still requires a warrant to access your iCloud data. EU wants to force companies to install spyware on your devices that will monitor whatever you send or receive in real time without any probable cause or suspicion.
dumbledoren 2y ago
Eu isnt 'planning' anything like that. Some Euparl MPs backed by people like Ashton Kutcher tried to push a law to spy on all chat apps. Then when the dirty web of American-style regulatory manipulation was exposed, they backed off. It was a proposal for a law by some MPs. Not something 'Eu' did.
- sunaookami 2y ago
  They backed off "for now". They are trying this for ages, did you forget about ACTA and Von der Leyen's past censorship attempts in Germany? Have you read the DSA? Of course the EU is planning to go full authoritian in the name of "protecting democracy".