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A mysterious motor-boat appears and slam-explodes into russian tankers. No country claims to be the owner. Drunk motorboat enthusiasts suspected - no trace of h

A mysterious motor-boat appears and slam-explodes into russian tankers. No country claims to be the owner. Drunk motorboat enthusiasts suspected - no trace of hybrid warfare..

tokai 2y ago
Letters of marque could definitely do a comeback.
- bluGill 2y ago
  Letters of marque worked when you could expect to get value from the permission it gave you. That matters wasn't just that you had a letter, but that whoever gave you the letter has the power to ensure you can use it. I could write you a letter of marque to steel cars, but the police will just ignore that letter (or arrest me for doing so - there are likely a few laws that could apply though I don't know them). If US Congress writes you a letter to steel a car, you can then take that stolen car and use/sell it in the US - the full power congress is behind you in saying you can do that (but don't drive the car to Canada or Mexico). The important part here is I don't thing anyone can get enough value to be worth it. Often ships have negative value in a scrap yard - they are so full of toxic/hazardous things that scrap yards charge more than they are worth to cut them up.
  - tokai 2y ago
    Millions of barrels of oil or a shipment of coal is pretty valuable.
bilbo0s 2y ago
Right. Escalation just when US leadership is pulling away. Stroke of strategic brilliance right there. /s EU should probably walk backward, slowly, saying “good dog”, while feeling around behind them for a stick. Ie - Take this opportunity to, quietly but significantly, scale up EU military capabilities. That would come in handy for dealing with both Russia, and the US, by the way. It’s crazy times so you don’t know what the future will hold.
- InDubioProRubio 2y ago
  The /s ituation escalactes itself. Weakness towards totalitarians is the escalation.
- InDubioProRubio 2y ago
  EU is armed to the teeth. All you had TODO is to pretend its corruption, throw a few parties in a rented Mückelsee villa and the disappearence of a billion in peace time is invisible for the russian sigint. That Berlin Airport was not that expensive. Have fun slamming into a wall of robots..
  - bluGill 2y ago
    Compared to the US or Russia Europe is not well armed. In some areas they are, but in critical areas the EU is way behind: air defense is going to be critical for any potential war in the near future and the EU has nothing of their own.
    - toomuchtodo 2y ago
      I hope this is a lesson Europe does not forget, and they start building immediately.
    - throwaway290 2y ago
      Are you saying Russia is better armed than Europe? You noticed that it could not win a war it started even without Europe joining?
      - codedokode 2y ago
        Interesting, I always had an impression that Europe is weak. Maybe this is an effect of us reading different media? As I know, many European countries do not even have mandatory military training for their citizens. Military production is also very low, despite having much more money than Russia, Europe is not capable of producing a comparable amount of weapon and equipment (see how they failed to deliver a promised amount of artillery shells). While Russia could save and restore Soviet-built military factories. Also, European weapon is more expensive to produce. Also, psychologically europeans are corrupted by their rich comfortable lifestyle and are not likely to move from their comfortable homes into the trenches. Also, migrants in Europe might choose not to protect their new home land in this event. Also, historically, if you look at WW2, most small European countries were occupied in weeks or even days without much resistance. Don't want to offend anyone but rather to remove a rose-colored glasses.

A mysterious motor-boat appears and slam-explodes into russian tankers. No country claims to be the owner. Drunk motorboat enthusiasts suspected - no trace of hybrid warfare..

tokai 2y ago

Letters of marque could definitely do a comeback.

bluGill 2y ago
Letters of marque worked when you could expect to get value from the permission it gave you. That matters wasn't just that you had a letter, but that whoever gave you the letter has the power to ensure you can use it. I could write you a letter of marque to steel cars, but the police will just ignore that letter (or arrest me for doing so - there are likely a few laws that could apply though I don't know them). If US Congress writes you a letter to steel a car, you can then take that stolen car and use/sell it in the US - the full power congress is behind you in saying you can do that (but don't drive the car to Canada or Mexico). The important part here is I don't thing anyone can get enough value to be worth it. Often ships have negative value in a scrap yard - they are so full of toxic/hazardous things that scrap yards charge more than they are worth to cut them up.
- tokai 2y ago
  Millions of barrels of oil or a shipment of coal is pretty valuable.

bilbo0s 2y ago

Right. Escalation just when US leadership is pulling away. Stroke of strategic brilliance right there. /s EU should probably walk backward, slowly, saying “good dog”, while feeling around behind them for a stick. Ie - Take this opportunity to, quietly but significantly, scale up EU military capabilities. That would come in handy for dealing with both Russia, and the US, by the way. It’s crazy times so you don’t know what the future will hold.

InDubioProRubio 2y ago
The /s ituation escalactes itself. Weakness towards totalitarians is the escalation.
InDubioProRubio 2y ago
EU is armed to the teeth. All you had TODO is to pretend its corruption, throw a few parties in a rented Mückelsee villa and the disappearence of a billion in peace time is invisible for the russian sigint. That Berlin Airport was not that expensive. Have fun slamming into a wall of robots..
- bluGill 2y ago
  Compared to the US or Russia Europe is not well armed. In some areas they are, but in critical areas the EU is way behind: air defense is going to be critical for any potential war in the near future and the EU has nothing of their own.
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    I hope this is a lesson Europe does not forget, and they start building immediately.
  - throwaway290 2y ago
    Are you saying Russia is better armed than Europe? You noticed that it could not win a war it started even without Europe joining?
    - codedokode 2y ago
      Interesting, I always had an impression that Europe is weak. Maybe this is an effect of us reading different media? As I know, many European countries do not even have mandatory military training for their citizens. Military production is also very low, despite having much more money than Russia, Europe is not capable of producing a comparable amount of weapon and equipment (see how they failed to deliver a promised amount of artillery shells). While Russia could save and restore Soviet-built military factories. Also, European weapon is more expensive to produce. Also, psychologically europeans are corrupted by their rich comfortable lifestyle and are not likely to move from their comfortable homes into the trenches. Also, migrants in Europe might choose not to protect their new home land in this event. Also, historically, if you look at WW2, most small European countries were occupied in weeks or even days without much resistance. Don't want to offend anyone but rather to remove a rose-colored glasses.