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It's the right choice: don't bow to government pressure, let the people pressure the government.
by vroomvroomboom 2y ago
It's the right choice: don't bow to government pressure, let the people pressure the government.
- ethagnawl 2y ago> let the people pressure the government. Hopefully they will.
- tmjwid 2y agoI can't imagine many here (UK) will really care, we've had multiple breeches of privacy imposed on us by the powers that be. - Removed incorrect assumption of this not being reported.
- darrenf 2y agoIt's literally the number one story on https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ as I type this comment.
- tmjwid 2y agoYeah my bad.
- gambiting 2y agoAnd I guarantee that the reaction from most people will be "good, I have nothing to hide so I have nothing to worry about". The apathy around this stuff in the UK is unbelivable - I've been trying to point out that hey, for years now something like 17 government agencies(including DEFRA - department of agriculture lol) can access your internet browsing history WITHOUT A WARRANT and that's absolutely fine. ISPs are required to keep your browsing history for a year too. Again, nothing to hide, why would I worry about it.
- genewitch 2y agoDoes and of the doh or other DNS stuff help with this at all? Is the only solution to VPN out of Europe?
- DeepSeaTortoise 2y agoOnly DNSCrypt provides any privacy. If you setup your relays properly.
- spwa4 2y agoThe same is happening Europe-wide too. Everybody always points to the GPDR legislation. You know what is a feature of the GPDR too? Every European government (even some non-EU ones) can grant any exception to anyone to the GPDR for any reason. And, of course, every last one has granted an exception to the police, to courts, to the secret service, their equivalent of the IRS, and to government health care (which imho is a big problem when we're talking mental health care), and when I say government health care, note that this includes private providers of health care, in other words insurances. Note: these GPDR exclusions includes denying patients access to their own medical records. So if a hospital lies about "providing you" with mental health treatment (which they are incentivized to do, they get money for that), it can helpfully immediately be used in your divorce. For you yourself, however, it is conveniently impossible to verify if they've done this. Nor can you ask (despite GPDR explicitly granting you this right) to have your medical records just erased. In other words. GPDR was explicitly created to give people control over their own medical records, and to deny insurance providers and the IRS access. It does the exact opposite. Exactly the sort of information I would like to hide, exactly the people I would find it critical to hide it from. In other words: GPDR applies pretty much only to US FANG companies ... and no-one else. So: if you don't pay tax and use that money to pay for a cancer treatment, don't think for a second the GPDR will protect you. If you have cancer and would like to get insured, the insurance companies will know. Etc.
- alt227 2y agoI agree, have an upvote. Even though its making the media headlines today, 99% of UK citizens will forget this tomorrow and it will fade into the mists of time. Just like evey other security infringement that any government has imposed on its citizens.
- basisword 2y agoThere was a lot of campaigning against the Investigatory Powers bill when it was introduced. It didn't help much given the people in power want more power regardless of where they sit on the political spectrum.
- miroljub 2y agoHow? In the UK, there's no right to bear arms, so people are pretty helpless against their oppressing government.
- emorning3 2y agoGuns are an inefficient/stupid way to kill people anyway. Just ask Russia and Ukraine. Look around, human beings are quite clever.
- krapp 2y agoWeird. In the US there is a right to bear arms, yet people are also pretty helpless against their oppressing government.
- cupcakecommons 2y agoWho do you know that's been arrested for posting on social media? I don't know of anyone.
- krapp 2y agoTrue. American police will shoot people dead in the streets with impunity, the military industrial complex engages in constant wars regardless of popular sentiment and the American government is currently being carved up by neo-nazis and oligarchs but you can legally be racist on the internet. I guess it truly is the land of the free. Also... wait six months.
- cupcakecommons 2y ago[flagged]
- saintfire 2y agoI'm sure shooting at the government would have solved this privacy issue.
- Molitor5901 2y agoNO, it's the wrong choice. Most people do not understand this stuff enough to truly care about, and they just want their devices to work. This is an awful decision by Apple. There's really nothing consumers can do to pressure the British government.
- MikeKusold 2y agoThose people aren’t enabling ADP to begin with.
- Molitor5901 2y agoExactly. There is a technological disconnect for a lot of people. They accept actions like this because they don't fully appreciate, IMHO, the ramifications. We do, and we must do more to educate people.
- vroomvroomboom 2y ago[flagged]
- 1propionyl 2y agoI'm sure the condescending attitude and negative stereotyping will sway readers.
- afthonos 2y agoConsumers being unable to pressure government, even if true, does not imply this is a bad decision.
- Molitor5901 2y agoIt's a terrible decision that will have grave ramifications. I see no positive to this action.
- madeofpalk 2y agoThis is Apple condeeding. Apple lost. UK Government got (almost) what they wanted - a backdoor into iCloud accounts. Apple's only consolation prize is that its limited to UK users for now. But it seems inevitable that ADP will gradually be made illegal all around the world.
- jahewson 2y agoGiven that they’ve only prevented new signups it looks to me more like Apple is trying to apply pressure to the U.K. government to get them to back down. The law that permits this was passed in 2016 so the situation was default lost already.
- alt227 2y agoThey have said all existing ADP enabled accounts will be disabled or deleted in time. They need to give people time to migrate their data out before they nuke it.