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[countyname].co.[stateabbr].[ctld] is injecting ontological metadata into the data, which is bizarre. Would be better to just get rid of the “co” layer.

by abtinf 2y ago

abtinf 2y ago
Actually I just looked at the original post, which indicates that both oh.gov and ohio.gov exist. Ohio.gov actually works. So countyname.ohio.gov would be perfect.
- EvanAnderson 2y ago
  The city of Medina Ohio, Medina County Ohio, and the Medina City School District have entered the chat.
  - abtinf 2y ago
    County: medina.ohio.gov City: medina.medina.ohio.gov From brief googling, the school district is subordinate to the county, not the city, despite its name. medinacityschools.medina.ohio.gov Or cityschools.medina.ohio.gov Or mcc.medina.ohio.gov Or bees.medina.ohio.gov
    - EvanAnderson 2y ago
      > medina.medina.ohio.gov I love this so much. It makes me sad that Buffalo, NY is in Erie County. That could have been great.
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    - BobaFloutist 2y ago
      What would you do for the City and County of San Francisco? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco Do they get two separate websites?
      - xp84 2y ago
        (I’m not OP but) Since there is only one entity, you would probably create a simple website redirect for the redundant lower level, and keep everything (web, email) at the domain (the one that would have been a “county” anywhere else). E.g. sf.ca.gov
EvanAnderson 2y ago
There are separate hierarchies for cities (".ci.oh.us", school districts (".k12.oh.us"), public libraries (".lib.oh.us"), and probably others I'm not aware of. It seems like there could be name collisions between those different entities that would necessitate the additional layer. Edit: Per my parent comment I screwed this up and misremembered the hierarchies. The locality name comes first for localities, so you'd be looking at things like: ci.medina.oh.us - City of Medina co.medina.oh.us - County of Medina medina.k12.oh.us - The Medina City School District medina.lib.oh.us - The Medina County District Library
- abtinf 2y ago
  So far as I am aware, every US state is split into counties, and most entities (cities, districts, etc) exist within counties. Maybe there should be a “falsehoods programmers believe about government structure” article, but I can think of very few exceptions. “cleveland.cuyahoga.ohio.gov” seems like a logically guessable domain.
  - EvanAnderson 2y ago
    Oh, I agree. It's logically guessable and the right hierarchy. It'd also never fly. >smile< > So far as I am aware, every US state is split into counties... re: falsehoods - Alaska has no counties. Louisiana has "Parishes". Connecticut and Rhode Island have counties but no county governments. Also, see Townships.
    - saalweachter 2y ago
      I'm always a little bit angry that New York calls Townships Towns.
    - abtinf 2y ago
      > Connecticut and Rhode Island have counties but no county governments This breaks my brain.
      - bombcar 2y ago
adrianmonk 2y ago
You can't get rid of the "co". It's needed for disambiguation. For example, here in Texas, the City of Dallas is located in Dallas County, but they are separate things. If you want to pay a parking ticket that you got in the City of Dallas, you need to go to the city's web site. If you want to pay your property taxes, you need to go to the county's web site. Also, the City of Austin is located in Travis County. There is an Austin County, but it's 100 miles (160 km) away. The only connection is that they are both named for Stephen F. Austin.
- xp84 2y ago
  Interesting. Here in CA we have a few fused “City and County of X” governments. In those cases, the borders are one and the same, and there is only one governmental entity in charge of it. Mostly, this is convenient.

[countyname].co.[stateabbr].[ctld] is injecting ontological metadata into the data, which is bizarre. Would be better to just get rid of the “co” layer.

by abtinf 2y ago

[countyname].co.[stateabbr].[ctld] is injecting ontological metadata into the data, which is bizarre. Would be better to just get rid of the “co” layer.

abtinf 2y ago

Actually I just looked at the original post, which indicates that both oh.gov and ohio.gov exist. Ohio.gov actually works. So countyname.ohio.gov would be perfect.

EvanAnderson 2y ago
The city of Medina Ohio, Medina County Ohio, and the Medina City School District have entered the chat.
- abtinf 2y ago
  County: medina.ohio.gov City: medina.medina.ohio.gov From brief googling, the school district is subordinate to the county, not the city, despite its name. medinacityschools.medina.ohio.gov Or cityschools.medina.ohio.gov Or mcc.medina.ohio.gov Or bees.medina.ohio.gov
  - EvanAnderson 2y ago
    > medina.medina.ohio.gov I love this so much. It makes me sad that Buffalo, NY is in Erie County. That could have been great.
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  - BobaFloutist 2y ago
    What would you do for the City and County of San Francisco? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco Do they get two separate websites?
    - xp84 2y ago
      (I’m not OP but) Since there is only one entity, you would probably create a simple website redirect for the redundant lower level, and keep everything (web, email) at the domain (the one that would have been a “county” anywhere else). E.g. sf.ca.gov

EvanAnderson 2y ago

There are separate hierarchies for cities (".ci.oh.us", school districts (".k12.oh.us"), public libraries (".lib.oh.us"), and probably others I'm not aware of. It seems like there could be name collisions between those different entities that would necessitate the additional layer. Edit: Per my parent comment I screwed this up and misremembered the hierarchies. The locality name comes first for localities, so you'd be looking at things like: ci.medina.oh.us - City of Medina co.medina.oh.us - County of Medina medina.k12.oh.us - The Medina City School District medina.lib.oh.us - The Medina County District Library

abtinf 2y ago
So far as I am aware, every US state is split into counties, and most entities (cities, districts, etc) exist within counties. Maybe there should be a “falsehoods programmers believe about government structure” article, but I can think of very few exceptions. “cleveland.cuyahoga.ohio.gov” seems like a logically guessable domain.
- EvanAnderson 2y ago
  Oh, I agree. It's logically guessable and the right hierarchy. It'd also never fly. >smile< > So far as I am aware, every US state is split into counties... re: falsehoods - Alaska has no counties. Louisiana has "Parishes". Connecticut and Rhode Island have counties but no county governments. Also, see Townships.
  - saalweachter 2y ago
    I'm always a little bit angry that New York calls Townships Towns.
  - abtinf 2y ago
    > Connecticut and Rhode Island have counties but no county governments This breaks my brain.
    - bombcar 2y ago

adrianmonk 2y ago

You can't get rid of the "co". It's needed for disambiguation. For example, here in Texas, the City of Dallas is located in Dallas County, but they are separate things. If you want to pay a parking ticket that you got in the City of Dallas, you need to go to the city's web site. If you want to pay your property taxes, you need to go to the county's web site. Also, the City of Austin is located in Travis County. There is an Austin County, but it's 100 miles (160 km) away. The only connection is that they are both named for Stephen F. Austin.

xp84 2y ago
Interesting. Here in CA we have a few fused “City and County of X” governments. In those cases, the borders are one and the same, and there is only one governmental entity in charge of it. Mostly, this is convenient.