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It was literally the tallest building in North Korea AND the tallest unoccupied building in the world for a long time(2nd only to a building in china now). If

It was literally the tallest building in North Korea AND the tallest unoccupied building in the world for a long time(2nd only to a building in china now). If you have hundreds of skyscrapers, an unoccupied one isn't crazy. But that's not North Korea. Trying to find equivalence here is ludicrous.

whamlastxmas 2y ago
Parent comment is probably more annoyance at the propaganda Americans are exposed to without realizing it, making us all think that communism and Russia and China and North Korea are scary monsters in the closet that are going to get us. I think you’d find it difficult to find an American who both dislikes communism and can have more than a couple sentences of why they feel that way. And I think most every American is pretty oblivious to the equally and sometime more shitty things that the US does and completely fails to keep in mind that we’re literally genociding countries and have done so since forever
- riehwvfbk 2y ago
  Once you see it, you can't unsee it. Next time you read an article in the Economist about how "Xi hates this one trick", pay attention to the attribution of the sources. It's all carefully written to frame unsubstantiated statements as facts, and to be able to deny it later.
  - latentcall 2y ago
    Yeah I find it hard to believe any Western propaganda about China anymore. Like the OpenAI thing with China using AI to spy on citizens or whatever? OpenAI is now a tool of the feds and they can just make it up? With the recent elections politicians just make things up and their constituents believe it immediately and forever. Trump saying the plane crash was a DEI hire caused event? What about WMD’s in Iraq? What about conservatives believing kids use litter boxes in schools now? We can take it so far. I’m not saying China is the world’s greatest country or anything but I don’t think they’re as bad as the media wants us to believe.
- theamk 2y ago
  It goes both ways - my experience is that Americans who like communism are people who have never experienced it.. maybe they blindly trust in Soviet propaganda, maybe they just project some idealistic idea of communism, creating a beautiful but not very realistic picture.
  - whamlastxmas 2y ago
    To be fair, people who are communist sympathizers have definitely experienced capitalism, and capitalism is all sorts of sociopath-levels of fucked up.

whamlastxmas 2y ago

Parent comment is probably more annoyance at the propaganda Americans are exposed to without realizing it, making us all think that communism and Russia and China and North Korea are scary monsters in the closet that are going to get us. I think you’d find it difficult to find an American who both dislikes communism and can have more than a couple sentences of why they feel that way. And I think most every American is pretty oblivious to the equally and sometime more shitty things that the US does and completely fails to keep in mind that we’re literally genociding countries and have done so since forever

riehwvfbk 2y ago
Once you see it, you can't unsee it. Next time you read an article in the Economist about how "Xi hates this one trick", pay attention to the attribution of the sources. It's all carefully written to frame unsubstantiated statements as facts, and to be able to deny it later.
- latentcall 2y ago
  Yeah I find it hard to believe any Western propaganda about China anymore. Like the OpenAI thing with China using AI to spy on citizens or whatever? OpenAI is now a tool of the feds and they can just make it up? With the recent elections politicians just make things up and their constituents believe it immediately and forever. Trump saying the plane crash was a DEI hire caused event? What about WMD’s in Iraq? What about conservatives believing kids use litter boxes in schools now? We can take it so far. I’m not saying China is the world’s greatest country or anything but I don’t think they’re as bad as the media wants us to believe.
theamk 2y ago
It goes both ways - my experience is that Americans who like communism are people who have never experienced it.. maybe they blindly trust in Soviet propaganda, maybe they just project some idealistic idea of communism, creating a beautiful but not very realistic picture.
- whamlastxmas 2y ago
  To be fair, people who are communist sympathizers have definitely experienced capitalism, and capitalism is all sorts of sociopath-levels of fucked up.