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> To quote an article: "The truth is, if it was not for the Yellow Ribbon Program I would not be going to law school." That's not DEI. This program is about h

> To quote an article: "The truth is, if it was not for the Yellow Ribbon Program I would not be going to law school." That's not DEI. This program is about helping ex-military to find new employment. DEI is about "we do not have enough racial / gender diversity at this company / office / organisation / employment level".

ethanencase 2y ago
Veterans are included in DEI hiring practices. As are disabilities. If you've applied for a job in the past 10 years surely you've had to declare your gender, ethnic background, veteran status, and disability status.
- michpoch 2y ago
  > Veterans are included in DEI hiring practices. As are disabilities. My message was specifically about the Yellow Ribbon Program, not if DEI includes people with disabilities. > If you've applied for a job in the past 10 years surely you've had to declare your gender, ethnic background, veteran status, and disability status. I did not. I believe that here, in Switzerland, it'd be illegal to ask for your gender or ethnicity. Age is legal, although not often practiced in IT. Veteran status - not a thing.
sgarland 2y ago
It absolutely is. I’m a disabled (technically, but not in any meaningful way) veteran, and you’d best believe that the first time I decided to mark those two boxes on job applications, my callback rate skyrocketed.
- michpoch 2y ago
  Please see my answer to someone else - "My message was specifically about the Yellow Ribbon Program, not if DEI includes people with disabilities.". I assume that you're USA-based. Is there any chance that there're any state-sponsored programs for employers hiring people with disabilities? I do still see a large difference between: - giving companies some benefits to cover the additional costs of having a disabled person working for them vs - requiring 40% women quota in board of directors: https://www.imd.org/ibyimd/diversity-inclusion/women-on-european-boards-a-route-towards-40/ https://www.imd.org/ibyimd/diversity-inclusion/women-on-euro... Again, my original statement was about what the JD Vance program is and what is not.

ethanencase 2y ago

Veterans are included in DEI hiring practices. As are disabilities. If you've applied for a job in the past 10 years surely you've had to declare your gender, ethnic background, veteran status, and disability status.

michpoch 2y ago
> Veterans are included in DEI hiring practices. As are disabilities. My message was specifically about the Yellow Ribbon Program, not if DEI includes people with disabilities. > If you've applied for a job in the past 10 years surely you've had to declare your gender, ethnic background, veteran status, and disability status. I did not. I believe that here, in Switzerland, it'd be illegal to ask for your gender or ethnicity. Age is legal, although not often practiced in IT. Veteran status - not a thing.

sgarland 2y ago

It absolutely is. I’m a disabled (technically, but not in any meaningful way) veteran, and you’d best believe that the first time I decided to mark those two boxes on job applications, my callback rate skyrocketed.

michpoch 2y ago
Please see my answer to someone else - "My message was specifically about the Yellow Ribbon Program, not if DEI includes people with disabilities.". I assume that you're USA-based. Is there any chance that there're any state-sponsored programs for employers hiring people with disabilities? I do still see a large difference between: - giving companies some benefits to cover the additional costs of having a disabled person working for them vs - requiring 40% women quota in board of directors: https://www.imd.org/ibyimd/diversity-inclusion/women-on-european-boards-a-route-towards-40/ https://www.imd.org/ibyimd/diversity-inclusion/women-on-euro... Again, my original statement was about what the JD Vance program is and what is not.