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HP used to be the gold star standard of what Silicon Valley company was like. They treated their employees and customers so well. Now they are just about as an
by blindriver 2y ago
HP used to be the gold star standard of what Silicon Valley company was like. They treated their employees and customers so well.
Now they are just about as anti-customer as I’ve ever seen. I blame Carly fiorina for gutting company culture. I encourage everyone to stay far away from any HP product and let this zombie company finally die.
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- 29athrowaway 2y agoOh let me check. Is she an MBA? Ah, that's why. Most engineers as leaders don't ruin companies, MBAs as leaders do.
- bluGill 2y agoYou need MBAs in your company to keep the leaders grounding in reality. Someone needs to watch the bottom line and say "hey support is costing us $$$" - however MBAs seem to look to cost cutting now vs an investment. That is if support is costing dollars increasing quality is often an answer, but it is something you have to do 5 years in advance.
- 29athrowaway 2y agoNo, you don't. You need MBAs to reduce everything to money and extract every penny out of processes and people making everyone sad, unsafe, sick, impoverished, etc. It is planet and civilization destructing mindset. Have you noticed how MBAs have never created anything? They always take credit for unsustainable short term gains that destroy great companies and present it as a success case? Like the MBA god Jack Welch, the reason 10% of employees in companies get terminated every year. We don't need MBAs for the same reason we don't need to believe in horoscopes, or put a colony of termites in our house.
- MrMcCall 2y agoOutstanding post! Best of the best. Truly. > Have you noticed how MBAs have never created anything? Actually, I haven't. What I did notice, however, is that they have destroyed most everything they've touched, like, America.
- bluGill 2y agoYou are missing something: all the entrepreneurs that have failed because they bit off more than they could chew. This is something easy to miss in the discussion but it is important. MBAs are important, but they need to be kept in their place because as you say they don't create anything.
- 29athrowaway 2y agoThey have been made important but they don't have to be important. Especially if our civilization is to survive.
- rtkwe 2y agoIt's because investments reduce short term returns while hacky cost cutting boosts them immediately. It's not even a novel problem that the current incentive system of the stock market and CEO pay heavily rewards short term rewards, it's not even from this century Jack Welsh pioneered the whole thing back in the 80s.
- lotsofpulp 2y agoFiorina started it, and Apotheker put the nail in the coffin with the $9B burned on the Autonomy acquisition.
- ratg13 2y agoWhen was this? I remember consulting in an HP semiconductor facility in the early 2000s and being amazed that anyone could possibly run an ‘advanced’ company so poorly and get away with it. I guess full disclaimer would be that I am currently running HPE servers and they are the best on the market.. so 500 wrongs eventually can make a right.