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This isn't a decent defence, it's a losing desperate one.
by Mindwipe 2y ago
This isn't a decent defence, it's a losing desperate one.
- StevenWaterman 2y agoThe noun phrase was "legal defence team" not "legal defence". A decent team can put forward a poor defence
- guappa 2y agoThey can just bribe the president.
- PontifexMinimus 2y agoMaybe Trump will legalise internet-based copying. After all, the main people hurt would be Hollywood, which is run by people supporting the Democrats. And it would be popular with many voters (not an issue for Trump but it is for Republicans).
- rs186 2y agoThat seems an oversimplification. Counter example: ownership of Amazon MGM Studios and its parent Amazon.
- lotsofpulp 2y agoSelling streaming media is a side business for Amazon (and Apple), an add on as a way to move Amazon Prime and Apple One subscriptions. They would probably benefit by handicapping Netflix/Disney/WBD/etc.
- userbinator 2y agoNot sure if he has the power to, and if everyone else will let him, but some EOs opening up the copyright system would be very welcome. There are already some things he's done around this: https://www.omm.com/insights/alerts-publications/trump-administration-s-initial-steps-on-ai-and-ip-policy/ https://www.omm.com/insights/alerts-publications/trump-admin...
- _Algernon_ 2y agoInbefore he pardons meta for torrenting.
- jillesvangurp 2y agoProbably no need. Elon Musk already did that. And one of his companies just published a shiny new version of grok. I wonder where they get their training material. I'm sure it's all just tweets and no stashes of ebooks or other material got downloaded in some way or otherwise fell of the proverbial wagon. Historically, copyright cases fell in favor of big media corporations based on the notion that they were very rich and powerful and could fight things endlessly, bribe/lobby politicians, and cause laws to be changed (e.g. the DMCA). However, AI companies are wealthier still. Some have revenues exceeding the GDPs of most countries. Surely, rich enough to outright buy out some of these media companies. At which point it would stop being copyright infringement because they'd own the copyrights. I'm sure some other arrangement will be found that is less mutually disruptive than a lot of court cases. Both sides are making too much money for anything else to happen. Forget about small book publishers making much of a difference here.
- michaelt 2y ago> Probably no need. Elon Musk already did that. And one of his companies just published a shiny new version of grok. Trump could make Grok, Facebook, Google and OpenAI's actions legal in response to a bribe from Musk. Or he could step up enforcement actions against Facebook, Google and OpenAI while issuing a pardon to Grok.
- yyyk 2y agoMeta's real (nigh invincible) defence is 'we have way more money than you and can keep this going forever'.
- stogot 2y agoMoney doesn’t keep it going forever, only about 2-4 years, even with appeals That’s enough to bankrupt individuals but industries fighting industries can see it to the end, if they don’t settle
- no_wizard 2y ago2-4 years is optimistic IMO. I’ve seen many copyright disputes carry for 7 years or more.
- scotty79 2y agoAs the richest man on Earth, with multiple investigations into him by various government agencies shown us, nothing is desperate with billions of dollars "in the bank".
- JKCalhoun 2y agoYeah, kinda surprised they haven't just flat out denied it, hoped it would blow over.
- JKCalhoun 2y agoAt some point I expect we'll see the "shareholders made me do it" defense. You know, the fiduciary-duty-to-keep-making-billions-regardless defense.