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Honestly I was waiting for a reply from Linux like this to put Hellwig in his place. > The fact is, the pull request you objected to DID NOT TOUCH THE DMA LAYE

Honestly I was waiting for a reply from Linux like this to put Hellwig in his place. > The fact is, the pull request you objected to DID NOT TOUCH THE DMA LAYER AT ALL. > It was literally just another user of it, in a completely separate subdirectory, that didn't change the code you maintain in _any_ way, shape, or form. > I find it distressing that you are complaining about new users of your code, and then you keep bringing up these kinds of complete garbage arguments. Finally. If he had been sooner maybe we wouldn't have lost talented contributors to the kernel.

kombine 2y ago
> Finally. If he had been sooner maybe we wouldn't have lost talented contributors to the kernel. I feel that departure of the lead R4L developer was a compromise deliberately made to not make Hellwig feel like a complete loser. This sounds bad of course.
- josefx 2y ago
  Who quit?
  - __s 2y ago
    https://asahilinux.org/2025/02/passing-the-torch https://asahilinux.org/2025/02/passing-the-torch
    - josefx 2y ago
      Aren't R4L and Asahi Linux separate projects?
      - __s 2y ago
        Yes, but that's the most recent one I assume people are talking about But maybe they mean https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240828211117.9422-1-wedsonaf@gmail.com https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240828211117.9422-1-wedsonaf@...
- fdrs 2y ago
  no lead R4L left because of the current situation. Marcan was the lead of Asahi Linux, not R4L. Wedson (which was one of the leads of R4L) left some time ago, before all of this, and his problem was not with Hellwig (or, at least it was not the one that brought the last drop). edit: whitespace
  - iknowstuff 2y ago
    Hellwig had a spat with asahi lina back then as well.
- dralley 2y ago
  Marcan quitting wasn't a compromise, the resignation of a maintainer would never be used that way. Dude was just burnt out. I don't blame him at all, hopefully some time away from the situation does him some good.
kennysoona 2y ago
Ah I can't believe I misspelled Linus as Linux, seems like it should happen often enough but honestly I think I rarely make that typo.
- sophacles 2y ago
  I've made that mistake, and the inverse, often enough that I try to make sure to check I've written the correct word... and I still mess it up. Between the words being similar and the 'x' being right next to the 's' on US keyboard, it's bound to happen. ON the flip side - when I (and I suspect many others) read Linux where Linus should be written, I rarely even notice and never really care because I've been there. All this is a long winded way of saying: don't sweat it :) .

kombine 2y ago

> Finally. If he had been sooner maybe we wouldn't have lost talented contributors to the kernel. I feel that departure of the lead R4L developer was a compromise deliberately made to not make Hellwig feel like a complete loser. This sounds bad of course.

josefx 2y ago
Who quit?
- __s 2y ago
  https://asahilinux.org/2025/02/passing-the-torch https://asahilinux.org/2025/02/passing-the-torch
  - josefx 2y ago
    Aren't R4L and Asahi Linux separate projects?
    - __s 2y ago
      Yes, but that's the most recent one I assume people are talking about But maybe they mean https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240828211117.9422-1-wedsonaf@gmail.com https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240828211117.9422-1-wedsonaf@...
fdrs 2y ago
no lead R4L left because of the current situation. Marcan was the lead of Asahi Linux, not R4L. Wedson (which was one of the leads of R4L) left some time ago, before all of this, and his problem was not with Hellwig (or, at least it was not the one that brought the last drop). edit: whitespace
- iknowstuff 2y ago
  Hellwig had a spat with asahi lina back then as well.
dralley 2y ago
Marcan quitting wasn't a compromise, the resignation of a maintainer would never be used that way. Dude was just burnt out. I don't blame him at all, hopefully some time away from the situation does him some good.

kennysoona 2y ago

Ah I can't believe I misspelled Linus as Linux, seems like it should happen often enough but honestly I think I rarely make that typo.

sophacles 2y ago
I've made that mistake, and the inverse, often enough that I try to make sure to check I've written the correct word... and I still mess it up. Between the words being similar and the 'x' being right next to the 's' on US keyboard, it's bound to happen. ON the flip side - when I (and I suspect many others) read Linux where Linus should be written, I rarely even notice and never really care because I've been there. All this is a long winded way of saying: don't sweat it :) .