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The number of job postings means nothing. 75% of the job postings are either scam or ghost postings.
by andro_dev 2y ago
The number of job postings means nothing. 75% of the job postings are either scam or ghost postings.
- selcuka 2y agoAlso the same jobs are advertised multiple times, with completely different wording, by multiple recruitment companies.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoI had an interview process frozen because of a hiring freeze a few months back. Then news of layoffs occured, predictably. Last week I see the exact job I applied to posted yet again. Ghost jobs really need to be punished. If you aren't actively talking to candidates within X days of posting or are reposting a job before Y days, there needs to be some disincenive to not do that.
- m3h 2y agoThen, assuming that the fake job posters are still there and that they now have AI help as well, the fall in the number of postings is more concerning.
- selcuka 2y agoMaybe recruiters are also losing their jobs, so the number of duplicates are now less?
- lnsru 2y agoSometimes the position is simply shit. “My” job ad is open again. Looks like the third guy lasted there 6 months too. Every day new agency posts the same job. But Python developer, who can fix custom hardware from the 90s in the night shift is rare. And the salary was very average too.
- willmadden 2y agoThat should change by tomorrow. The EEOC is going to crack down on companies cheating H-1B and posting ghost positions: https://x.com/USTechWorkers/status/1892771344540193076 https://x.com/USTechWorkers/status/1892771344540193076
- addicted 2y agoAny H1B related postings are a tiny fraction of the postings by recruiters and recruitment agencies trying to build up their databases, and companies wanting to look like they’re continuing to grow.
- willmadden 2y agoI follow this topic closely and I disagree that it is a tiny fraction.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoI'm a part of the circus, and I don't think many of these have h1-b code smells to it. Companies just wanna hype up AI or whatever and make less people do more work. If this has general ghost jobs caught in the crossfire too, that'd be amazing. Just don't waste my time on something you already know doesn't exist.
- dilyevsky 2y agoBLS says there are 140,000 of new job postings for sw engs annually. DOL stats show ~120,000 PERM applications (for which job postings are required - they're not required for H1Bs), of which probably only 20% are for software engineers. So 30,000 / 140,000 - ~21%. Pretty small fraction.
- andro_dev 2y agoI am not a Trump supporter and I didn't vote for him, but the fact is that Biden's BLS numbers were always manipulated to portray the former president as successful. These statistics are unreliable, in addition, the underlying premise of relying on job postings was flawed from the start which was my initial argument. Take a look at this, the previous administration hired hundreds of thousands of gov workers to inflate the employment numbers. https://x.com/VladTheInflator/status/1891600635167981904 https://x.com/VladTheInflator/status/1891600635167981904
- finolex1 2y agoIt's the trend that matters, not the absolute numbers
- andro_dev 2y agoThe scams and fake job postings on the market are also increasing rapidly, outpacing the growth of overall job listings. This trend is significantly affecting the accuracy of employment and job availability tracking.
- red-iron-pine 2y agoI don't know how this isn't considered SEC fraud by publicly traded companies. the whole point is to obfuscate growth or decline to blur the ability of business intelligence units to make prediction about the company. it's a scam for applicants, and a scam on the market. I'm not convinced H1B issues are related, though I'm sure there are fake adverts for jobs that are unfillable to get H1Bs in, too. Unfortunately Musk, Ramaswamy, and DOGE are all about cheap workers.
- stcroixx 2y agoSome are H1B fraud where they already have the person they want and advertise and interview to fool USCIS.