> But the software produced by the foundation is simply bad. The foundation produces things like the spec and the e2ee libs. The last time the foundation produ

> But the software produced by the foundation is simply bad. The foundation produces things like the spec and the e2ee libs. The last time the foundation produced a client was in 2015, and servers in 2023 - in both instances the wider community builds the implementations, just as W3C doesn’t make web browsers any more. > Usually followed by people from the foundation saying it's fixed in X or 2.0. Could this be because… it’s fixed in Element X or Matrix 2.0, perhaps?