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> This original statement was somewhat ambiguous. Last July, NASA awarded Space X an $843 million contract to modify a Dragon spacecraft to serve as a propulsiv

> This original statement was somewhat ambiguous. Last July, NASA awarded Space X an $843 million contract to modify a Dragon spacecraft to serve as a propulsive vehicle to safely guide the aging space station into the Pacific Ocean in 2030. So in some sense, preparations are already underway to shut down the laboratory. > I asked Musk if he meant that NASA and the US government should commit to the 2030 end-of-life date, or if he wanted to accelerate the timeline for the station's demise. > "The decision is up to the President, but my recommendation is as soon as possible. I recommend 2 years from now," Musk replied. So it's not like this is coming completely out of the blue, but it's hilarious Elon's continued heel turn. He went anti-tech, abandoned his environmental/EV fans, and now he takes aim at space nerds? Are there any of his original supporters left to piss off?

qingcharles 2y ago
He literally only made this comment because the commander of the ISS called him a liar. He is so thin-skinned that he is willing to explode the entire space station ahead of schedule just to retaliate over a Tweet.
- kccoder 2y ago
  "Narcissistic rage is an extreme reaction that can occur when someone with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) feels their self-importance is threatened. It can be triggered by criticism, loss of control, or even minor setbacks." We should start teaching children emotional intelligence daily in K-12, including niche topics like how to spot sociopaths, narcissists, ..., and all other forms of monsters. Perhaps in a generation we can learn to stop giving these deeply damaged and dangerous people any kind of power over us.
potato3732842 2y ago
Space nerds are pretty meh on the ISS. It's cool but it served its purpose. Nobody is gonna cry if it dies a little earlier. We should have our sights set on bigger and better things.
- nkozyra 2y ago
  Perhaps, but I suspect space nerds in general support geo-collaborative space efforts over privatized ones taking the reins.
  - potato3732842 2y ago
    Well sure, it's a pretty left leaning community, but what people support most at the end of the day is progress.
    - drawkward 2y ago
      Mussolini got the trains to run on time!
      - powerhugs 2y ago
        You think you are funny?
        drawkward 2y ago
        I think "progress" has been used for justification of all manner of horrors.
- inverted_flag 2y ago
  Is this the consensus on Tiangong as well?
jmye 2y ago
> Are there any of his original supporters left to piss off? I mean, it seems like a fair number of them don’t care what he does, or how - he’s a “genius” and everything he does is perfect, much like his VP. Excuses will always abound.
rsynnott 2y ago
> Are there any of his original supporters left to piss off? Oh, yeah; some people can rationalise anything if they're sufficiently emotionally invested in a figure.
drawkward 2y ago
>Are there any of his original supporters left to piss off? Fans of Atlas Shrugged
- ryandvm 2y ago
  Yeah, the people flagging every single one of these stories...
  - drawkward 2y ago
    Feelsbadman
  - itsdrewmiller 2y ago
    I'm not the one flagging them but I can understand why people don't think hacker news is the place for Elon Musk news anymore; while he is tech adjacent most of these articles are about politics and can be found on regular news sites.
    - drawkward 2y ago
      The tech billionaire overlords want you to think that tech is by default apolitical. It is not. Tech increasingly controls human lives, insofar is the way things are coded only allow for outcomes consistent with the codebase (whether intentional outcomes or not), that are dictated by the user's flow through the codebase. When you control a human life's outcomes, you are doing something explicitly political. Every dollar flowing into X, Amazon, Meta is now a dollar that ladders up directly (Elon Musk) or indirectly (donations to Trump) to the current administration. When anyone can donate unlimited amounts to SuperPACs--when money is regarded as speech--then everything with a dollar value is political. Until political campaigns are funded by tax dollars, and capped at that level, everything that is touched by money, not just tech, is political.
      - ryandvm 2y ago
        > When anyone can donate unlimited amounts to SuperPACs--when money is regarded as speech--then everything with a dollar value is political. That's a great point.

qingcharles 2y ago

He literally only made this comment because the commander of the ISS called him a liar. He is so thin-skinned that he is willing to explode the entire space station ahead of schedule just to retaliate over a Tweet.

kccoder 2y ago
"Narcissistic rage is an extreme reaction that can occur when someone with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) feels their self-importance is threatened. It can be triggered by criticism, loss of control, or even minor setbacks." We should start teaching children emotional intelligence daily in K-12, including niche topics like how to spot sociopaths, narcissists, ..., and all other forms of monsters. Perhaps in a generation we can learn to stop giving these deeply damaged and dangerous people any kind of power over us.

potato3732842 2y ago

Space nerds are pretty meh on the ISS. It's cool but it served its purpose. Nobody is gonna cry if it dies a little earlier. We should have our sights set on bigger and better things.

nkozyra 2y ago
Perhaps, but I suspect space nerds in general support geo-collaborative space efforts over privatized ones taking the reins.
- potato3732842 2y ago
  Well sure, it's a pretty left leaning community, but what people support most at the end of the day is progress.
  - drawkward 2y ago
    Mussolini got the trains to run on time!
    - powerhugs 2y ago
      You think you are funny?
      - drawkward 2y ago
        I think "progress" has been used for justification of all manner of horrors.
inverted_flag 2y ago
Is this the consensus on Tiangong as well?

jmye 2y ago

> Are there any of his original supporters left to piss off? I mean, it seems like a fair number of them don’t care what he does, or how - he’s a “genius” and everything he does is perfect, much like his VP. Excuses will always abound.

rsynnott 2y ago

> Are there any of his original supporters left to piss off? Oh, yeah; some people can rationalise anything if they're sufficiently emotionally invested in a figure.

drawkward 2y ago

>Are there any of his original supporters left to piss off? Fans of Atlas Shrugged

ryandvm 2y ago
Yeah, the people flagging every single one of these stories...
- drawkward 2y ago
  Feelsbadman
- itsdrewmiller 2y ago
  I'm not the one flagging them but I can understand why people don't think hacker news is the place for Elon Musk news anymore; while he is tech adjacent most of these articles are about politics and can be found on regular news sites.
  - drawkward 2y ago
    The tech billionaire overlords want you to think that tech is by default apolitical. It is not. Tech increasingly controls human lives, insofar is the way things are coded only allow for outcomes consistent with the codebase (whether intentional outcomes or not), that are dictated by the user's flow through the codebase. When you control a human life's outcomes, you are doing something explicitly political. Every dollar flowing into X, Amazon, Meta is now a dollar that ladders up directly (Elon Musk) or indirectly (donations to Trump) to the current administration. When anyone can donate unlimited amounts to SuperPACs--when money is regarded as speech--then everything with a dollar value is political. Until political campaigns are funded by tax dollars, and capped at that level, everything that is touched by money, not just tech, is political.
    - ryandvm 2y ago
      > When anyone can donate unlimited amounts to SuperPACs--when money is regarded as speech--then everything with a dollar value is political. That's a great point.