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Good thing there’s no conflict of interest in the owner of SpaceX advocating for the destruction of a successful international space project.

galacticaactual 2y ago
It's being destructed anyway. Did you read the article?
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago
  I recommend that the sun rise tomorrow
linuxftw 2y ago
According to the article, it's already slated for splashing down in the pacific in 2030. He's proposing to move the timeline up.
- jtgeibel 2y ago
  So he is going to accelerate the existing $843 million dollar contract for free? If not, that sure sounds like a conflict of interest to me.
- viraptor 2y ago
  Yes and according to the article, there are still interesting things planned in the meantime. Meanwhile, who would benefit from working on and sending a replacement up?
  - linuxftw 2y ago
    > interesting things planned in the meantime The article didn't mention anything interesting. Perhaps they would have if there was going to be actually interesting work? Perhaps Musk knows what's scheduled to take place and in his opinion its all a waste of time. Just because someone else thinks it is important doesn't mean it does. I think it's fine to have the conversation, especially if it saves money, considering the US is 10's of trillions in debt.
    - viraptor 2y ago
      That's fine to discuss. That's how things normally happen - someone does the analysis, writes the report, people consider it and maybe implement it. Either way it results in some justification and future accountability. This tweet is none of that.
    - alabastervlog 2y ago
      We don't have to speculate ("perhaps"); it was an outburst because his feelings got hurt by an astronaut. It's there for anyone to read because it all happened in public.
    - JohnFen 2y ago
      > Perhaps Musk knows what's scheduled to take place and in his opinion its all a waste of time. Musk's opinion on anything is worthless.
axus 2y ago
Were the Dragon capsule missions not turning a profit?
- spwa4 2y ago
  Youtuber @Thunderf00t claims that none of Musk's businesses are actually profitable. Musk is only rich because he traded his shares of a failing X.com (the bank) for Paypal shares in trade, mostly, for stopping to sabotage Paypal online, then did little or nothing at Paypal until Ebay bought him out. Tesla is losing money hand over fist, and disaster is turning to catastrophe with Musk's recent antics. SpaceX is losing money (and would be hemorrhaging money if not for US government spending). Starlink is losing money. Neuralink is losing money. Xai is losing money. The Boring company is bankrupt. X has lost at minimum 75% of it's value since Musk took over, and is running at a loss. Musk's talent is not tech, and it's not "first principles" or anything like that. His talent is getting idiot investors to invest ... and not ask for their money back until it's far too late. @Thunderf00t's latest video about the Starship crash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uFO6BjWSs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uFO6BjWSs But the whole channel is interesting: https://www.youtube.com/@Thunderf00t/videos https://www.youtube.com/@Thunderf00t/videos Thunderf00t's claim is that Musk is not taking over the government out of patriotism, but because his businesses are 100% dependent on continued government investment, because they're burning through investor cash. MASSIVE continued government investment. The general theory being that Musk has dethroned Bernie Madoff as the biggest US fraudster ever, that this has already happened, but won't come out until fresh government money stops increasing, we just don't know it yet.
  - techorange 2y ago
    It’s so interesting that, like if Musk wanted to rest in his laurels a bit that he would still be known as one of the greatest innovators/entrepeneurs of all time, but yeah, I think two things are true that he is and that he’s way over his skis in almost every way and has no clear path to fix any of it.
  - craigus 2y ago
    Tesla is losing money hand over fist No, it's not. Its 2024 operating income was $7B. SpaceX is losing money No, it's not. It reached profitability in 2023 and has substantially grown revenue since then. (and would be hemorrhaging money if not for US government spending) No, it wouldn't. Most of SpaceX's revenue is from Starlink. https://www.fool.com/investing/2025/02/10/its-official-starlink-is-spacexs-biggest-money-mak/ https://www.fool.com/investing/2025/02/10/its-official-starl... The Boring company is bankrupt No, it's not. Stop spreading misinformation. Check your facts before you post them. Neuralink is losing money What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say about an early stage startup, working diligently on creating a valuable new medical technology, with significant publicly visible progress. Especially ridiculous to say on this platform.
aeternum 2y ago
If anything his interest is to keep the space station since SpaceX is the preferred, and now the only provider of transportation to/from the station. It's actually a pretty clever way to avoid the conflict, have others push to keep the space station and thus the necessary transport contracts with SpaceX. Not only this but it also aligns with his stated decades-long goal of focusing on a manned mission to Mars.
- sympil 2y ago
  I think it far more likely that he wants NASA to contract out building a new space station.
  - BizarroLand 2y ago
    It's amazing how much "galaxy brain 4d chess" these musk huffers play with themselves to justify the stupidity. "Uh, no, you don't see the brilliance! He's advocating for deorbiting the ISS while calling astronauts retarded to trick people into keeping the ISS up and running!" SMDH. You don't have to justify his every thought. The simplest answer is typically the right one.
    - aeternum 2y ago
      So the simplest answer is that he is giving up immediate recurring transport revenue to the existing station for a chance at launch contracts for a future station that may or may not be built? Quite the galaxy brained idea indeed. Keep in mind however that the galaxy is mostly vacuum.
      - drawkward 2y ago
        Bro literally has the keys to the kingdom.
- snailmailstare 2y ago
  Or he cheaped out on quality.
- 2y ago

galacticaactual 2y ago

It's being destructed anyway. Did you read the article?

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago
I recommend that the sun rise tomorrow

linuxftw 2y ago

According to the article, it's already slated for splashing down in the pacific in 2030. He's proposing to move the timeline up.

jtgeibel 2y ago
So he is going to accelerate the existing $843 million dollar contract for free? If not, that sure sounds like a conflict of interest to me.
viraptor 2y ago
Yes and according to the article, there are still interesting things planned in the meantime. Meanwhile, who would benefit from working on and sending a replacement up?
- linuxftw 2y ago
  > interesting things planned in the meantime The article didn't mention anything interesting. Perhaps they would have if there was going to be actually interesting work? Perhaps Musk knows what's scheduled to take place and in his opinion its all a waste of time. Just because someone else thinks it is important doesn't mean it does. I think it's fine to have the conversation, especially if it saves money, considering the US is 10's of trillions in debt.
  - viraptor 2y ago
    That's fine to discuss. That's how things normally happen - someone does the analysis, writes the report, people consider it and maybe implement it. Either way it results in some justification and future accountability. This tweet is none of that.
  - alabastervlog 2y ago
    We don't have to speculate ("perhaps"); it was an outburst because his feelings got hurt by an astronaut. It's there for anyone to read because it all happened in public.
  - JohnFen 2y ago
    > Perhaps Musk knows what's scheduled to take place and in his opinion its all a waste of time. Musk's opinion on anything is worthless.

axus 2y ago

Were the Dragon capsule missions not turning a profit?

spwa4 2y ago
Youtuber @Thunderf00t claims that none of Musk's businesses are actually profitable. Musk is only rich because he traded his shares of a failing X.com (the bank) for Paypal shares in trade, mostly, for stopping to sabotage Paypal online, then did little or nothing at Paypal until Ebay bought him out. Tesla is losing money hand over fist, and disaster is turning to catastrophe with Musk's recent antics. SpaceX is losing money (and would be hemorrhaging money if not for US government spending). Starlink is losing money. Neuralink is losing money. Xai is losing money. The Boring company is bankrupt. X has lost at minimum 75% of it's value since Musk took over, and is running at a loss. Musk's talent is not tech, and it's not "first principles" or anything like that. His talent is getting idiot investors to invest ... and not ask for their money back until it's far too late. @Thunderf00t's latest video about the Starship crash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uFO6BjWSs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uFO6BjWSs But the whole channel is interesting: https://www.youtube.com/@Thunderf00t/videos https://www.youtube.com/@Thunderf00t/videos Thunderf00t's claim is that Musk is not taking over the government out of patriotism, but because his businesses are 100% dependent on continued government investment, because they're burning through investor cash. MASSIVE continued government investment. The general theory being that Musk has dethroned Bernie Madoff as the biggest US fraudster ever, that this has already happened, but won't come out until fresh government money stops increasing, we just don't know it yet.
- techorange 2y ago
  It’s so interesting that, like if Musk wanted to rest in his laurels a bit that he would still be known as one of the greatest innovators/entrepeneurs of all time, but yeah, I think two things are true that he is and that he’s way over his skis in almost every way and has no clear path to fix any of it.
- craigus 2y ago
  Tesla is losing money hand over fist No, it's not. Its 2024 operating income was $7B. SpaceX is losing money No, it's not. It reached profitability in 2023 and has substantially grown revenue since then. (and would be hemorrhaging money if not for US government spending) No, it wouldn't. Most of SpaceX's revenue is from Starlink. https://www.fool.com/investing/2025/02/10/its-official-starlink-is-spacexs-biggest-money-mak/ https://www.fool.com/investing/2025/02/10/its-official-starl... The Boring company is bankrupt No, it's not. Stop spreading misinformation. Check your facts before you post them. Neuralink is losing money What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say about an early stage startup, working diligently on creating a valuable new medical technology, with significant publicly visible progress. Especially ridiculous to say on this platform.

aeternum 2y ago

If anything his interest is to keep the space station since SpaceX is the preferred, and now the only provider of transportation to/from the station. It's actually a pretty clever way to avoid the conflict, have others push to keep the space station and thus the necessary transport contracts with SpaceX. Not only this but it also aligns with his stated decades-long goal of focusing on a manned mission to Mars.

sympil 2y ago
I think it far more likely that he wants NASA to contract out building a new space station.
- BizarroLand 2y ago
  It's amazing how much "galaxy brain 4d chess" these musk huffers play with themselves to justify the stupidity. "Uh, no, you don't see the brilliance! He's advocating for deorbiting the ISS while calling astronauts retarded to trick people into keeping the ISS up and running!" SMDH. You don't have to justify his every thought. The simplest answer is typically the right one.
  - aeternum 2y ago
    So the simplest answer is that he is giving up immediate recurring transport revenue to the existing station for a chance at launch contracts for a future station that may or may not be built? Quite the galaxy brained idea indeed. Keep in mind however that the galaxy is mostly vacuum.
    - drawkward 2y ago
      Bro literally has the keys to the kingdom.
snailmailstare 2y ago
Or he cheaped out on quality.
2y ago