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> OpenEuroLLM has a total budget of €37.4 million of which €20.6 million comes from the Digital Europe Programme. So on average 1.87 million per participating
by seydor 2y ago
> OpenEuroLLM has a total budget of €37.4 million of which €20.6 million comes from the Digital Europe Programme.
So on average 1.87 million per participating institution which might amount to funding ~5 PhD students per institution. Not bad for a training program.
The project has been awarded the Sovereignity Seal, an EU mark of Excellence before it even started. This is truly in accordance with european values, where we reward participation and proclamation. I don't think we will ever hear again from this project.
Congratulations to the participants of the consortium for receiving this large EU grant. Thoughts and prayers to the students who will be writing the deliverable progress reports.
- huijzer 2y ago> This is truly in accordance with european values, where we reward participation and proclamation. Yes. In my experience the government is happy with "looks good doesn't work" as long as it truly looks good.
- bee_rider 2y agoThank goodness we have startup culture in the US, instead we can have “looks bad, doesn’t work, but Microsoft bought it so…”
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y agoand "actively erodes human community and democratic society"
- TeMPOraL 2y agoThat's the ones that don't get bought. Unicorns are carnivores that prey on the people.
- aubanel 2y agoMicrosoft is certainly much better at judging the value of a software than any european administration.
- bee_rider 2y agoI dunno, every software product I use in the US has been getting worse over time. Even if Europe is doing nothing, at least they aren’t accelerating in the negative direction.
- amarcheschi 2y agoOf all the software companies, Microsoft really makes me feel the ick every time I have to interact with their suite. I started using again teams after months and I didn't remember it was so bad, it's like a reverse course on ux
- aubanel 2y agoThen please switch for a product made by the EU. Call me when you've read through 300 pages of documentation to discover there was no product.
- FranzFerdiNaN 2y agoLol yeah unlike corporationd who are happy with “makes life intentionally worse but brings in money”. Jesus the ideology in this place runs so thick with some people.
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- solid_fuel 2y agoIt’s truly absurd the ways some people here twist logic. “Government did it” means it MUST be bad, of course. It takes a willful ignorance, pretending that all government efforts are bad and all corporate efforts are therefore good. As if ARPAnet just sprang from a group of MBAs sitting around unemployed. When I read 1984 in high school, I didn’t really get the scariest bit: a lot of people are PROUD to shout that 2 + 2 = 5 as long as it makes a poor person somewhere else sad.
- ta12653421 2y agofor 1.87m per project, you get in EU rather 15 - 20 people :) (salaries are low here)
- seydor 2y agoI assume the largest portion will be consumables, travel, meetings etc.
- dagenleg 2y agoAt least in France, where they have PhDs which last only 3 years, a years of PhD would cost ~45K EUR in gross salary (granted the student gets around half of that after tax), then let's say ~10K travel and consumables costs, then add up the inevitable 20% overhead costs and now you're looking at around 200K for the shortest possible frugal 3 year PhD.
- rhubarbtree 2y agoAt least in the UK, overheads are usually over 100%.
- p-a_58213 2y ago....at best :( - more in certain universities.
- dagenleg 2y agoThis sounds like quite an outlandish figure, could you please elaborate? For example, an ERC grant would allow for a maximum of 25% of the so called "indirect costs", that is, one fourths of all the the direct costs (gross salaries, materiel, travel, etc) gets paid as a lump sum, and this usually goes to the institution. How do you end up with over 100% overheads?
- rhubarbtree 2y agoI recall putting a grant proposal together. An RA salary of £40K was charged to the project at £110K. Those numbers are roughly accurate, might actually have been slightly higher. I’m not sure how that gets accounted in different schemes, perhaps it is somehow impossible in ERC grants, but it is certainly the case in some grants. 25% cap would I think make most universities bankrupt overnight.
- gman83 2y agoSovereignity Seal -- https://strategic-technologies.europa.eu/investors_en https://strategic-technologies.europa.eu/investors_en is just a fund for investing in strategic technologies, it's meant for projects that are getting started.
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