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I want financial independence for the sole reason that I can work on interesting problems like this without any outside nagging or funding issues from anyone el

I want financial independence for the sole reason that I can work on interesting problems like this without any outside nagging or funding issues from anyone else (there might still be some judgment, but I can ignore that). Personally I think governments should fund more moonshot solo or small team efforts because high risk / high reward pays off when you reduce the variance by spreading it out over so many people. But it looks like we’re going headstrong the other direction in terms of funding in the U.S. right now, so I’m not optimistic.

godelski 2y ago
> I want financial independence for the sole reason that I can work on interesting problems like this without any outside nagging or funding issues from anyone else Ditto. This is literally the only desire I have to be wealthy. It is not about having nice things, a nice house, or any of that. It is about letting me do my own research.
- jereees 2y ago
  I bet there’s a good number of us. How do we make this a reality? :)
  - drivebyhooting 2y ago
    Last decades? Work in ad tech. Now? Work on LLMs.
  - godelski 2y ago
    I bet there is too! But I think it is also hard to form this community. Given the increased friction from the general community I think it might be time to put serious effort in determining how to make this a reality. I don't have a great idea for it tbh. I'll pitch a bad one at least to put something out there. Maybe we can convince some billionaire to perform a post scarcity experiment? To buy large chunk of land, gather people who have both high passion and expertise in domains, and let them run wild. Less like Star Trek and more like Eureka[0]. I don't think it is a realistic expectation to get billionaire funding, but I think the idea of looking at something like Eureka (or this category of groups you see in many Sci-Fi stories) is worth drawing inspiration from: effectively post scarce (possible on small scale?), high levels of freedom (very doable), high levels of creativity and expressiveness (this is the experiment, to see if it is decreased/maintained/increased). [0] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796264/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796264/
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    - Geezus_42 2y ago
      I get where you're coming from, but this is just Prsopera, or any of the other failed libertarian citiy experiments.
      - godelski 2y ago
        That appears to have entirely different goals.
goalieca 2y ago
Given what universities charge, they should more than be able to cover comfortable salaries for all researchers so they never need to worry about going broke. Tenure is a very useful tool!
- genewitch 2y ago
  What are Harvard's coffers up to these days? Over 2bn? IIRC that's free and clear.
  - goalieca 2y ago
    > The Harvard University endowment, valued at $50.7 billion as of June 30, 2023,[1] is the largest academic endowment in the world.
Agentlien 2y ago
I'm a Swedish game developer and I feel exactly the same way. I have my dream games I work on every now and then making very little slow progress. My wildest dream would be just being able to dedicate myself to it full time. But, there are bills to pay.

godelski 2y ago

> I want financial independence for the sole reason that I can work on interesting problems like this without any outside nagging or funding issues from anyone else Ditto. This is literally the only desire I have to be wealthy. It is not about having nice things, a nice house, or any of that. It is about letting me do my own research.

jereees 2y ago
I bet there’s a good number of us. How do we make this a reality? :)
- drivebyhooting 2y ago
  Last decades? Work in ad tech. Now? Work on LLMs.
- godelski 2y ago
  I bet there is too! But I think it is also hard to form this community. Given the increased friction from the general community I think it might be time to put serious effort in determining how to make this a reality. I don't have a great idea for it tbh. I'll pitch a bad one at least to put something out there. Maybe we can convince some billionaire to perform a post scarcity experiment? To buy large chunk of land, gather people who have both high passion and expertise in domains, and let them run wild. Less like Star Trek and more like Eureka[0]. I don't think it is a realistic expectation to get billionaire funding, but I think the idea of looking at something like Eureka (or this category of groups you see in many Sci-Fi stories) is worth drawing inspiration from: effectively post scarce (possible on small scale?), high levels of freedom (very doable), high levels of creativity and expressiveness (this is the experiment, to see if it is decreased/maintained/increased). [0] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796264/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796264/
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  - Geezus_42 2y ago
    I get where you're coming from, but this is just Prsopera, or any of the other failed libertarian citiy experiments.
    - godelski 2y ago
      That appears to have entirely different goals.

goalieca 2y ago

Given what universities charge, they should more than be able to cover comfortable salaries for all researchers so they never need to worry about going broke. Tenure is a very useful tool!

genewitch 2y ago
What are Harvard's coffers up to these days? Over 2bn? IIRC that's free and clear.
- goalieca 2y ago
  > The Harvard University endowment, valued at $50.7 billion as of June 30, 2023,[1] is the largest academic endowment in the world.

Agentlien 2y ago

I'm a Swedish game developer and I feel exactly the same way. I have my dream games I work on every now and then making very little slow progress. My wildest dream would be just being able to dedicate myself to it full time. But, there are bills to pay.