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So, where is your evidence that fraud of such scale is happening in the federal budget that requires unprecedented (and likely extremely illegal) access by peop

So, where is your evidence that fraud of such scale is happening in the federal budget that requires unprecedented (and likely extremely illegal) access by people who are not qualified to be running a gas station IT system, let alone the entire financial and IT backend of the federal government? This is such a dishonest discussion and I suspect you types know it.

theultdev 2y ago
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- thr0w4w47 2y ago
  Frivolous spending != fraud. Please read commenting guidelines at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - theultdev 2y ago
    Is there a difference when it comes to the taxpayer? It's all waste. Fraud if there were kickbacks, we'll see about that.
    - thr0w4w47 2y ago
      Maybe there is no difference, but I think honest framing matters. > "Fraud has already been posted everywhere ($55b and counting)" I'm looking for some evidence to support your $55 billion fraud claim, not just $55 billion in waste. If it's been "posted everywhere", please link to it!
      - theultdev 2y ago
        > just $55 billion in waste "Just" lol. After a month. Replace the fraud w/ waste if that makes you feel better about the audit. I'm sure investigations will reveal fraud, it takes awhile to build a case. But even if there is zero fraud (fat chance), gotta love the savings from waste cuts!
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        thr0w4w47 2y ago
        Dang, I was really excited to read about the $55 billion in fraud after you claimed that it has been "posted everywhere". :( Please let me know when you find the evidence! Also, I never said I dislike the audit. I do, however, dislike dishonest framing.
        theultdev 2y ago
        Again, we'll just say it's "waste" until investigations complete. Glad I could frame it better for you so you can feel good about the savings. Also glad to hear you like or are at least content with the audit, since you don't "dislike" it.
        thr0w4w47 2y ago
        Yup. We'll see how it goes.
- hypothesis 2y ago
  > Fraud has already been posted everywhere ($55b and counting) so if you haven't seen it, you aren't looking. Not too surprising to find another propaganda victim… Here, I did your research for you: > After correcting an apparent clerical error, it now shows $8.5 billion. https://www.npr.org/2025/02/19/nx-s1-5302705/doge-overstates-savings-federal-contracts https://www.npr.org/2025/02/19/nx-s1-5302705/doge-overstates...
  - Aushin 2y ago
    And NPR could only confirm 2 billion of those contracts were actually canceled. It's an endless fountain of bullshit.
    - ganoushoreilly 2y ago
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      - thr0w4w47 2y ago
        He doesn't seem upset to me. Why can't you follow comment guidelines? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        ganoushoreilly 2y ago
        Why do you keep posting this in every discussion?
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  - archagon 2y ago
    Further proof that this is not an “audit,” but a show trial.

theultdev 2y ago

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thr0w4w47 2y ago
Frivolous spending != fraud. Please read commenting guidelines at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- theultdev 2y ago
  Is there a difference when it comes to the taxpayer? It's all waste. Fraud if there were kickbacks, we'll see about that.
  - thr0w4w47 2y ago
    Maybe there is no difference, but I think honest framing matters. > "Fraud has already been posted everywhere ($55b and counting)" I'm looking for some evidence to support your $55 billion fraud claim, not just $55 billion in waste. If it's been "posted everywhere", please link to it!
    - theultdev 2y ago
      > just $55 billion in waste "Just" lol. After a month. Replace the fraud w/ waste if that makes you feel better about the audit. I'm sure investigations will reveal fraud, it takes awhile to build a case. But even if there is zero fraud (fat chance), gotta love the savings from waste cuts!
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      - thr0w4w47 2y ago
        Dang, I was really excited to read about the $55 billion in fraud after you claimed that it has been "posted everywhere". :( Please let me know when you find the evidence! Also, I never said I dislike the audit. I do, however, dislike dishonest framing.
        theultdev 2y ago
        Again, we'll just say it's "waste" until investigations complete. Glad I could frame it better for you so you can feel good about the savings. Also glad to hear you like or are at least content with the audit, since you don't "dislike" it.
        thr0w4w47 2y ago
        Yup. We'll see how it goes.
hypothesis 2y ago
> Fraud has already been posted everywhere ($55b and counting) so if you haven't seen it, you aren't looking. Not too surprising to find another propaganda victim… Here, I did your research for you: > After correcting an apparent clerical error, it now shows $8.5 billion. https://www.npr.org/2025/02/19/nx-s1-5302705/doge-overstates-savings-federal-contracts https://www.npr.org/2025/02/19/nx-s1-5302705/doge-overstates...
- Aushin 2y ago
  And NPR could only confirm 2 billion of those contracts were actually canceled. It's an endless fountain of bullshit.
  - ganoushoreilly 2y ago
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    - thr0w4w47 2y ago
      He doesn't seem upset to me. Why can't you follow comment guidelines? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - ganoushoreilly 2y ago
        Why do you keep posting this in every discussion?
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- archagon 2y ago
  Further proof that this is not an “audit,” but a show trial.