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We are well past the point of diminishing returns in education: https://www.winginstitute.org/does-state-education-funding https://www.winginstitute.org/does-st

We are well past the point of diminishing returns in education: https://www.winginstitute.org/does-state-education-funding https://www.winginstitute.org/does-state-education-funding. Schools should probably focus on developing healthy kids while controlling ballooning costs.

alsoforgotmypwd 2y ago
The Wing Institute appears to be a 2 generations removed repeat of Challenger Schools: educators who got tired of bureaucratic fads and mediocrity and decided to do something about it in their small corner of the world. They're still not paying public school teachers nearly enough anywhere. And school facilities are crumbling in impoverished areas. NCLBA was a disaster rammed through by the person least qualified to understand education, the bozo GWB, and without asking educators.
apsec112 2y ago
US public education spending as a percentage of GDP is lower now than in 1993: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-government-expenditure-on-education-gdp?tab=chart&country=~USA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-government-expendit...
- polski-g 2y ago
  The percentage of children in the population is lower than in 1993.
- s1artibartfast 2y ago
  Why should it scale with GDP? GDP growth represents more goods and services produced. If GDP doubles and you go from $1 eggs to $2 eggs, GDP didn't actually grow or you are being swindled. Expenses for a fixed goods and services should decrease as a percent of GDP over time. If they don't, that means spending is less efficient over time.
Manuel_D 2y ago
I don't think the authors are calling for more spending. In fact they point out that funding is not a cure-all: > In 1985, based on the theory that funding would close education gaps, a judge ordered enormous spending increases in Kansas City Schools, tripling the district’s budget and enabling them to run through a wish list of everything they could dream of to close the gaps. They built new schools, created a busing plan, and reduced the student-teacher ratio to a record low nationwide, throwing money at the problem for more than a decade. But when the Supreme Court ordered a reversal in 1995, the district’s test scores had not improved, its black-white gap had not closed, and it was no more integrated than when it began. The piece focuses more on encouraging separation of pupils by ability, instead of uniformly teaching to the median.

alsoforgotmypwd 2y ago

The Wing Institute appears to be a 2 generations removed repeat of Challenger Schools: educators who got tired of bureaucratic fads and mediocrity and decided to do something about it in their small corner of the world. They're still not paying public school teachers nearly enough anywhere. And school facilities are crumbling in impoverished areas. NCLBA was a disaster rammed through by the person least qualified to understand education, the bozo GWB, and without asking educators.

apsec112 2y ago

US public education spending as a percentage of GDP is lower now than in 1993: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-government-expenditure-on-education-gdp?tab=chart&country=~USA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-government-expendit...

polski-g 2y ago
The percentage of children in the population is lower than in 1993.
s1artibartfast 2y ago
Why should it scale with GDP? GDP growth represents more goods and services produced. If GDP doubles and you go from $1 eggs to $2 eggs, GDP didn't actually grow or you are being swindled. Expenses for a fixed goods and services should decrease as a percent of GDP over time. If they don't, that means spending is less efficient over time.

Manuel_D 2y ago

I don't think the authors are calling for more spending. In fact they point out that funding is not a cure-all: > In 1985, based on the theory that funding would close education gaps, a judge ordered enormous spending increases in Kansas City Schools, tripling the district’s budget and enabling them to run through a wish list of everything they could dream of to close the gaps. They built new schools, created a busing plan, and reduced the student-teacher ratio to a record low nationwide, throwing money at the problem for more than a decade. But when the Supreme Court ordered a reversal in 1995, the district’s test scores had not improved, its black-white gap had not closed, and it was no more integrated than when it began. The piece focuses more on encouraging separation of pupils by ability, instead of uniformly teaching to the median.