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"If you really like eating chicken, you may end up finding it difficult to eat them again in the future after you develop a bond with them." Or you might find

"If you really like eating chicken, you may end up finding it difficult to eat them again in the future after you develop a bond with them." Or you might find them delicious and need to raise more of them.

ilikecakeandpie 2y ago
Do you know anyone where this has been the case?
- slothtrop 2y ago
  * gestures to most of recorded history * Before the industrial revolution, 80% of us worked the land, most familiar with animal agriculture.
  - ilikecakeandpie 2y ago
    This is irrelevant. Do you bring up that before the industrial revolution that grown men used to marry children when people talk about modern views on grooming?
    - slothtrop 2y ago
      Did you miss the context? The other user questions whether people have ever been unperturbed by slaughter when raising animals. It's a strange sentiment when you consider that historically we have been much, much closer to the animals we consume and intimately familiar with the process of how they get to the table.
- giantg2 2y ago
  Yes, I know people who raise chickens for dual purpose. There are entire breeds of chickens that are dedicated to dual production.
threetonesun 2y ago
Raising animals to eat for meat is a very different endeavor than raising them for milk/eggs. Especially if you eat meat daily (or more than once a day!), do some mental math on how many animals you'd need to sustain yourself.
- giantg2 2y ago
  It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Anyways, one buck and 2-3 doe rabbits can give you something like 300+ pounds of meat per year. Close to a pound a day would be sufficient for most people. Of course you aren't going to eat only one thing, so you will have other sources of meat for variety
- lsaferite 2y ago
  Not to mention, raising meat chickens is sad. We've bread them to gorge themselves so they bulk up fast. That results in essentially morbidly obese chickens. We ended up with two on accident and they couldn't even climb the ramp into the coop after a few weeks. The just gorged and sat around in the dirt. It was very sad. Raising non-meat chickens takes a lot longer and the meat output is much lower.
  - canucker2016 2y ago
    Picture in the following article shows the difference in size of chickens since the 1950s. see https://www.zmescience.com/feature-post/how-chickens-tripled-in-size/ https://www.zmescience.com/feature-post/how-chickens-tripled...
  - giantg2 2y ago
    There are such things as heritage and forager breeds, not to mention dual purpose breeds. The industrial meat birds are the only ones that really have the issues you describe. Look into Kosher Kings or Freedom Rangers and you'll see they don't have those problems. As others have mentioned, raising them yourself is much more humane than buying it in the store. The only reason it would be more sad is because the suffering of the birds in the store is hidden from you.

ilikecakeandpie 2y ago

Do you know anyone where this has been the case?

slothtrop 2y ago
* gestures to most of recorded history * Before the industrial revolution, 80% of us worked the land, most familiar with animal agriculture.
- ilikecakeandpie 2y ago
  This is irrelevant. Do you bring up that before the industrial revolution that grown men used to marry children when people talk about modern views on grooming?
  - slothtrop 2y ago
    Did you miss the context? The other user questions whether people have ever been unperturbed by slaughter when raising animals. It's a strange sentiment when you consider that historically we have been much, much closer to the animals we consume and intimately familiar with the process of how they get to the table.
giantg2 2y ago
Yes, I know people who raise chickens for dual purpose. There are entire breeds of chickens that are dedicated to dual production.

threetonesun 2y ago

Raising animals to eat for meat is a very different endeavor than raising them for milk/eggs. Especially if you eat meat daily (or more than once a day!), do some mental math on how many animals you'd need to sustain yourself.

giantg2 2y ago
It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Anyways, one buck and 2-3 doe rabbits can give you something like 300+ pounds of meat per year. Close to a pound a day would be sufficient for most people. Of course you aren't going to eat only one thing, so you will have other sources of meat for variety
lsaferite 2y ago
Not to mention, raising meat chickens is sad. We've bread them to gorge themselves so they bulk up fast. That results in essentially morbidly obese chickens. We ended up with two on accident and they couldn't even climb the ramp into the coop after a few weeks. The just gorged and sat around in the dirt. It was very sad. Raising non-meat chickens takes a lot longer and the meat output is much lower.
- canucker2016 2y ago
  Picture in the following article shows the difference in size of chickens since the 1950s. see https://www.zmescience.com/feature-post/how-chickens-tripled-in-size/ https://www.zmescience.com/feature-post/how-chickens-tripled...
- giantg2 2y ago
  There are such things as heritage and forager breeds, not to mention dual purpose breeds. The industrial meat birds are the only ones that really have the issues you describe. Look into Kosher Kings or Freedom Rangers and you'll see they don't have those problems. As others have mentioned, raising them yourself is much more humane than buying it in the store. The only reason it would be more sad is because the suffering of the birds in the store is hidden from you.