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> IMHO it's a bit of a shame that the productivity and efficiency gains that computing and cybernetics can bring to complex systems They're just firing people
by justin66 2y ago
> IMHO it's a bit of a shame that the productivity and efficiency gains that computing and cybernetics can bring to complex systems
They're just firing people at random, they haven't discovered any innovative new way to make systems more efficient.
("at random" is a bit generous and ignores the retaliation against political adversaries)
- mrayycombi 2y agoHe's going to fill the empty slots with loyal cronies he can fire at will. This is, I think, just "stage 1"
- insane_dreamer 2y agoChanging the rules so gov employees can be fired "at will" is an explicit goal of Project 2025
- theshrike79 2y agoIt's not "at random". Every shuttered department had been investigating one of Elmo's properties...
- throw0101c 2y ago> It's not "at random". Every shuttered department had been investigating one of Elmo's properties... ¿Porque no los dos? Firing the folks that maintain nuclear weapons: * https://apnews.com/article/nuclear-doge-firings-trump-federal-916e6819104f04f44c345b7dde4904d5 https://apnews.com/article/nuclear-doge-firings-trump-federa... Firing the folks dealing with bird flu: * https://apnews.com/article/usda-firings-doge-bird-flu-trump-fdd6495cbe44c96d471ae8c6cf4dd0a8 https://apnews.com/article/usda-firings-doge-bird-flu-trump-... Also firing a whole bunch of folks at the FAA (including maintenance mechanics) even though it's already short staffed: * https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly9y1e1kpjo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly9y1e1kpjo Random and spiteful (?).
- Chronoyes 2y ago[flagged]
- agumonkey 2y agopseudo random then ?
- whymeogod 2y agoTo add to hrow0101c's list USAID was investigating Starlink Consumer Protection Bureau has numerous investigations open vs Musky companies Treasury is involved in regulating Muskys X for Finance thing
- sanderjd 2y agoRight. Even random would be more principled.
- DAGdug 2y agoI personally support trimming bureaucratic fat, but the way the current administration is doing it is the worst way possible - with no due diligence - and will lose public support soon.
- ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago> lose public support soon Sooner than you think. My tax refund is quite late.
- cratermoon 2y agoI told my family that if they expect a refund and haven't already filed their taxes to do so ASAP.
- JTbane 2y agoI have to wait until March to get all my documents from brokerages, so I guess I am personally screwed by DOGE if returns are delayed.
- janalsncm 2y agoNo kidding. Been waiting 15 days for what should be a routine return.
- ozmodiar 2y agoI really wish I could still believe that last part.
- mostertoaster 2y agoYeah unlikely. I don’t even care that Elon isn’t just being altruistic and is in on all this just to benefit himself. My support of what they’re doing thus far is pretty steadfast, and I just want to see more and more people fired, and more and more budget cut. I don’t care what happens to Ukraine, just don’t want us to send another dime. Hoping it can just end soon, which is more likely now than it was with previous administration. Tariffs are a terrible idea though, but would take them if we got rid of the income tax. As of now DOGE and Trump are doing exactly what I hoped, and I’ll check back in a year and see if I’m worried.
- jcranmer 2y agoFrom the reporting I've seen, they're not firing "at random", they're firing more or less every single new hire they can, because new hires have less protections than more established employees.
- theossuary 2y agoNot just new hires, but also anyone who took a promotion or lateral move, which also puts them into a probationary period. So they're firing all the new employees and all the employees exceptional enough to be promoted or recruited to another department.
- ConfusedDog 2y agoYou mean Peter Principled into another department...? Sorry, just joking. It's terrible and unfair to fire people like this. They are removing the low hanging fruits first.
- heylook 2y agoDude, what is wrong with you? Tens of thousands of real, human people trying to support tens of thousands of real, human families. That's what your joke is about.
- ConfusedDog 2y agoI take back my apology. lol
- evilduck 2y agoYou need to find more reporting then. It's both, and more, and worse. The folks fired at DOE's NNSA were not exclusively probationary employees. DOGE doesn't even know the function of the departments they're eliminating. It's not evident they even know _what_ they're eliminating. See the "find and fire" approach to the word transitional. Oops... turns out that one's used in more than the context of gender. Even firing all probationary employees explicitly _for cause_ when there's no evidence of performance problems with most of them is worse than random, it opens them up to legitimate legal backlash. Have you ever worked anywhere where the last two years of hires were all just completely worthless as employees? Of course not, that's basically impossible. Eliminating these people would have been harsh but understandable if it were said to be done for simple budget reasons, because yes they indeed are in a vulnerable less protected situation, but to call them all poor performers at the same time is worse than random, it's an obvious and transparent lie.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoThis[0] doesn't seem random, and is just one example of many similar ones. And that's not counting the firings at the DOJ and FBI which were explicitly retribution (though you could argue DOGE had nothing to do with those firings, which may be true, but I'm referring to Trump's mass firings in general). [0] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-18/fda-official-with-oversight-of-musk-s-neuralink-devices-fired https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-18/fda-offic...