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So, essentially the same idea as iCloud+ Private Relay in Safari?
by mantra2 2y ago
So, essentially the same idea as iCloud+ Private Relay in Safari?
- mmooss 2y agoDoesn't Apple control both hops?
- wmf 2y agoNo, the second hop is Cloudflare.
- eesmith 2y agoSo, two US companies subject to US laws, the FISA court, and government-ordered secret surveillance.
- LeoPanthera 2y agoThat wasn't the question, though. The answer is yes - this is the same concept as Apple's Private Relay.
- ignoramous 2y agoNo, it isn't similar to Private Relay as its entire premise for 2 hop (versus 3 for Tor) hinges on anonymous authorization (via Privacy Pass) at the exit node.
- Imustaskforhelp 2y agoBut isn't that apple id + privacy relay as well. I think you have misread things. They aren't comparing private relay with tor but rather with obscura for which the answer is a yes
- ignoramous 2y ago> But isn't that apple id + privacy relay as well For authentication? Yes. Private Relay has Tor-like guarantees (with 2 hops) baked into the protocol, as it uses anonymous authorization tokens (which can't be tied to Apple IDs they represent) at exit node. https://www.apple.com/privacy/docs/iCloud_Private_Relay_Overview_Dec2021.PDF https://www.apple.com/privacy/docs/iCloud_Private_Relay_Over...
- Yeri 2y agoActually, Fastly and Akamai also provide exits. Cloudflare isn't the only provider.