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Hmm, I only half agree with your statement on success being a effective way to gauge a mate's value. Yes, success indicates some level of ability, but is in no

Hmm, I only half agree with your statement on success being a effective way to gauge a mate's value. Yes, success indicates some level of ability, but is in no way a true measure. For instance, a person who has gained his fortune mainly by inheritance and little work of their own is not nearly skilled as a person who has done it nearly all themselves. Or, often someone is in the right place at the right time, but they themselves are fairly average (maybe they joined a randmom startup and was always a junior member of the company, but still became super wealthy because the company IPO'd and they happened to have a decent number of shares). I'd agree though on average it does indicate some greater chance at being more skilled, but for me at least, success doesn't directly gauge a mate's value. Like many things, it is a lot of factors that all need to be considered together.

inanutshellus 2y ago
Inherited status is a different kind of status, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist or have merit. Inherited status is an implication of advantage. Sure, YOU didn't out-compete the herd, but your creators did, and my knowing that /you/, through your parents, are the product of success is status for you, too. Sure, earned success is /also/ a boost, but... let's not pretend like inherited success is a /detractor/. Everyone weighs what they know with what they don't and assigns status. Good looking? Plus! Overtly intelligent? Plus! Very awkward around people? Minus! Inherited status? Plus! Black sheep? Hm... If I respect the family's status then... Minus? If I don't then... Plus? and so on. We all know "it is a lot of factors" and quite obviously status is merely among them, including inherited status.
- computerdork 2y ago
  Well, I guess like everything, it's up for personal interpretation, which is why I think that success is still only one of the factors in determining viability as a mate. Yeah, what I have tended to notice is that the few friends I have that come from rich families, often from foreign countries and grew up with servants, is that they are limited in ways that I don't really see as someone I'd regard highly as a mate. They often lack simple basics skills, like fixing simple things around the house or the social skills to treat others as equals (well, this last one I only know one person like this). To me, coming from a lot of money can actually be a negative. Yeah, for me, success is just one of the factors, but to each their own - and I am sure I'm personally biased, because I have not be as successful as I would have liked in my own career paths. If I was really successful, might be saying something completely different (would hope not, but who knows?).

inanutshellus 2y ago

Inherited status is a different kind of status, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist or have merit. Inherited status is an implication of advantage. Sure, YOU didn't out-compete the herd, but your creators did, and my knowing that /you/, through your parents, are the product of success is status for you, too. Sure, earned success is /also/ a boost, but... let's not pretend like inherited success is a /detractor/. Everyone weighs what they know with what they don't and assigns status. Good looking? Plus! Overtly intelligent? Plus! Very awkward around people? Minus! Inherited status? Plus! Black sheep? Hm... If I respect the family's status then... Minus? If I don't then... Plus? and so on. We all know "it is a lot of factors" and quite obviously status is merely among them, including inherited status.

computerdork 2y ago
Well, I guess like everything, it's up for personal interpretation, which is why I think that success is still only one of the factors in determining viability as a mate. Yeah, what I have tended to notice is that the few friends I have that come from rich families, often from foreign countries and grew up with servants, is that they are limited in ways that I don't really see as someone I'd regard highly as a mate. They often lack simple basics skills, like fixing simple things around the house or the social skills to treat others as equals (well, this last one I only know one person like this). To me, coming from a lot of money can actually be a negative. Yeah, for me, success is just one of the factors, but to each their own - and I am sure I'm personally biased, because I have not be as successful as I would have liked in my own career paths. If I was really successful, might be saying something completely different (would hope not, but who knows?).