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> the MCMC backed down after massive public outcry, but the government's authoritarian tendencies remain palpable. That contradicts your thesis. They did liste

> the MCMC backed down after massive public outcry, but the government's authoritarian tendencies remain palpable. That contradicts your thesis. They did listen to feedback from the people, that's democracy.

nsoonhui 2y ago
That such a ridiculous idea even being proposed is already a huge indication of authoritarianism, not to mention that MCMC could resurrect the idea at any time.
- weddpros 2y ago
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  - firen777 2y ago
    In the future these kind of "whatabout" comments should be auto-flagged due to how unproductive they are.
    - HexDecOctBin 2y ago
      Are they unproductive? How many people are saying that UK and Europe shouldn't build data centers? Is irrationality not to be called out, simply because it's hurts some pre-existing notions of societal, civilisation, or perhaps racial superiority?
    - weddpros 2y ago
      "reading the comments gave me a headache..." you, 45 days ago
frontfor 2y ago
This is simplistic. China famously ended the COVID lockdown after protests broke out. Would you call that a democracy?
- muzani 2y ago
  I would. Autocracy would be arresting the protestors.
  - frontfor 2y ago
    This is a very black and white thinking. Autocracy and democracy lies on a spectrum. Just because China doesn’t lie on the extreme end of Autocracy doesn’t mean it’s a democracy.
muzani 2y ago
Back when BN ruled, the government blocked Medium (which was reporting the 1MDB case), proposed "fake news" laws to silence people on social media. Govt parties owned majority share in all newspapers. They erased images from newspapers like party flags or KLCC. After Anwar's party took over, one of the first things they did was remove the ban on Medium and the "fake news" laws. They did cut funding to newspapers (which probably a revenge policy). But we're making lots of progress in this space.

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> the MCMC backed down after massive public outcry, but the government's authoritarian tendencies remain palpable. That contradicts your thesis. They did liste

by chabska 2y ago

nsoonhui 2y ago
That such a ridiculous idea even being proposed is already a huge indication of authoritarianism, not to mention that MCMC could resurrect the idea at any time.
- weddpros 2y ago
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  - firen777 2y ago
    In the future these kind of "whatabout" comments should be auto-flagged due to how unproductive they are.
    - HexDecOctBin 2y ago
      Are they unproductive? How many people are saying that UK and Europe shouldn't build data centers? Is irrationality not to be called out, simply because it's hurts some pre-existing notions of societal, civilisation, or perhaps racial superiority?
    - weddpros 2y ago
      "reading the comments gave me a headache..." you, 45 days ago
frontfor 2y ago
This is simplistic. China famously ended the COVID lockdown after protests broke out. Would you call that a democracy?
- muzani 2y ago
  I would. Autocracy would be arresting the protestors.
  - frontfor 2y ago
    This is a very black and white thinking. Autocracy and democracy lies on a spectrum. Just because China doesn’t lie on the extreme end of Autocracy doesn’t mean it’s a democracy.
muzani 2y ago
Back when BN ruled, the government blocked Medium (which was reporting the 1MDB case), proposed "fake news" laws to silence people on social media. Govt parties owned majority share in all newspapers. They erased images from newspapers like party flags or KLCC. After Anwar's party took over, one of the first things they did was remove the ban on Medium and the "fake news" laws. They did cut funding to newspapers (which probably a revenge policy). But we're making lots of progress in this space.