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Who will enforce following the law if the executive branch ignores the judicial? In theory the military is sworn to defend the constitution, but if the DOD is

Who will enforce following the law if the executive branch ignores the judicial? In theory the military is sworn to defend the constitution, but if the DOD is headed by a Trump loyalist (it is), then what?

NotYourLawyer 2y ago
There is no suggestion that that’s going to happen.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  The Vice-President of the United States is openly suggesting it. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gx3j5k63xo.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gx3j5k63xo.amp
  - dathinab 2y ago
    and the president did too in slightly more subtle way
  - NotYourLawyer 2y ago
    Not really. Here’s a good explanation from Harvard constitutional law professor Steve Vladeck. https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/123-what-vice-president-vance-didand https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/123-what-vice-president-vance...
xnx 2y ago
> Who will enforce following the law if the executive branch ignores the judicial? Congress through impeachment. If they don't do that, all bets are off.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  But who enforces impeachment? Who evicts the President?
  - dathinab 2y ago
    And who impeaches a President which just gave himself the right to authoritatively misinterpret the law in whatever way they want and in turn can trivially turn you live into a living hell if they insist too especially if you yourself could get a part of the pie and don't think it will negatively affect you I mean don't get me wrong if they would do so literally tomorrow it would work. But as the majority of senate likely feel they have little to loose it won't be tomorrow. And when they realize that maybe they won't get part of the pie (they are mostly now useless for him) it will be to late and the fear of repercussions will have set in.
  - ModernMech 2y ago
    Upon impeaching the President, the VP would become President, and he would order the military to remove the ex-President. At that point the military would have to decide if it's more loyal to Congress or the ex-President.
    - ceejayoz 2y ago
      Why would the President’s hand-picked buddy automatically play ball?
      - ModernMech 2y ago
        Because they could just as easily impeach him if he doesn't, then it falls to the Speaker of the House. But if I were them I would just impeach them both at the same time for the same reasons.

NotYourLawyer 2y ago

There is no suggestion that that’s going to happen.

ceejayoz 2y ago
The Vice-President of the United States is openly suggesting it. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gx3j5k63xo.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gx3j5k63xo.amp
- dathinab 2y ago
  and the president did too in slightly more subtle way
- NotYourLawyer 2y ago
  Not really. Here’s a good explanation from Harvard constitutional law professor Steve Vladeck. https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/123-what-vice-president-vance-didand https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/123-what-vice-president-vance...

xnx 2y ago

> Who will enforce following the law if the executive branch ignores the judicial? Congress through impeachment. If they don't do that, all bets are off.

ceejayoz 2y ago
But who enforces impeachment? Who evicts the President?
- dathinab 2y ago
  And who impeaches a President which just gave himself the right to authoritatively misinterpret the law in whatever way they want and in turn can trivially turn you live into a living hell if they insist too especially if you yourself could get a part of the pie and don't think it will negatively affect you I mean don't get me wrong if they would do so literally tomorrow it would work. But as the majority of senate likely feel they have little to loose it won't be tomorrow. And when they realize that maybe they won't get part of the pie (they are mostly now useless for him) it will be to late and the fear of repercussions will have set in.
- ModernMech 2y ago
  Upon impeaching the President, the VP would become President, and he would order the military to remove the ex-President. At that point the military would have to decide if it's more loyal to Congress or the ex-President.
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    Why would the President’s hand-picked buddy automatically play ball?
    - ModernMech 2y ago
      Because they could just as easily impeach him if he doesn't, then it falls to the Speaker of the House. But if I were them I would just impeach them both at the same time for the same reasons.