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>> NSF Director Sethuraman Panchanathan, who ordered the firings, did not attend the meeting Such courage. I've had to fire a number of people over the years u
by wewewedxfgdf 2y ago
>> NSF Director Sethuraman Panchanathan, who ordered the firings, did not attend the meeting
Such courage. I've had to fire a number of people over the years unfortunately and I've always had the courage to do it myself.
>> terminated by the end of the day, without severance
As long as its done with humanity.... oh, no? Oh well.
- csa 2y agoI don’t know the specifics for this case, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he was voluntold to do this on very short notice while under duress.
- wholinator2 2y agoStill, seems like it's his responsibility to explain that in the meeting. That message has infinitely more weight if he's the one saying it, otherwise you can just point to his absence and claim its only covering his add
- csa 2y ago> otherwise you can just point to his absence and claim its only covering his add … or trying to arrange to save positions at the last minute. I’ve seen the other side of this before. If he’s a shit leader, he’s just hiding. If he’s a good leader, then he is firing off e-mails and banging down doors explaining how letting go of this position or that position (or department or whatever) will create irreparable harm. And with this administration, he probably has the added task of trying to figure out which aspects of irreparable harm the administration wants and which ones they don’t want — an extreme exercise in doublethink. Once you’re dealing with government leaders at this level, I would default to a charitable view until proven otherwise. They aren’t perfect for sure, but they trend towards being pretty damn good at their jobs.
- rich_sasha 2y agoI get there's no worker rights in the US, but surely do people not have contractual notice period, severance etc? I mean, I'm sure not if you're in a marginal job, but US administration..???
- mistrial9 2y agono you are wrong.. at a certain legal era, worker rights and protections got very strong in the USA. The bounce-back from that (long ago) includes "illegal" international workers, high-tech "anything to win" business practices, and moribund, glacially paced court cases involving retirement and medical coverage. Like education, there is a pendulum effect over time.. but the movement is such that "correcting" for one extreme happens over the enaction of another extreme.. etc
- rich_sasha 2y agoClearly, people with employment rights and contractual rights are not fired with no cause and no severance. So I don't see how to square this with your comment.
- mistrial9 2y agoyou are citing a result, but, I guarantee you that there are a lot of lawyers involved on all sides.. nothing about employment law in the USA is simple IMHO
- twqahg 2y agoWhy was Panchanathan chosen? His Wikipedia is unspectacular: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sethuraman_Panchanathan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sethuraman_Panchanathan But he was suggested by both Obama and Trump. Is it this? "Panchanathan highlighted how universities like ASU ought to work hand-in-hand with businesses to create curriculum that fosters the entrepreneurial traits employers look for today, in order to produce a future of innovation ecosystems." Or does he facilitate flooding the US with cheaper H1B scientists from India? I no longer understand why people rise to the top (this is not limited to the US, Europe is the same).
- meta_x_ai 2y ago[dead]