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Yeah. Dude. I don’t like the outcome, but he has “extra” powers because Republicans won a lot of elections and are a majority in all three branches of governmen

Yeah. Dude. I don’t like the outcome, but he has “extra” powers because Republicans won a lot of elections and are a majority in all three branches of government and in many statehouses.

georgemcbay 2y ago
> Republicans won a lot of elections A lot of them thanks to the results of blatant gerrymandering.
- gottorf 2y ago
  My candidate winning reflects the legitimate will of the people, and your candidate winning is solely due to gerrymandering. Of course. Both parties[0][1] in fact do engage in gerrymandering. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois%27s_4th_congressional_district https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois%27s_4th_congressional... [1]: https://thefulcrum.us/electoral-reforms/worst-gerrymandered-districts https://thefulcrum.us/electoral-reforms/worst-gerrymandered-...
  - georgemcbay 2y ago
    In your own link [1] all but 2 of the examples of worst gerrymanders are Republican...? But uh yeah "both sides"... uh huh
  - kelnos 2y ago
    That's a bad-faith argument. Yes, it's true that both parties engage in gerrymandering. But Republicans do it a lot more than Democrats do. Out of the 25 examples in your second link, it seems like 23 of them are GOP gerrymanders?
    - gottorf 2y ago
      It seems that way because Republicans control most of the state legislatures at the moment. The term itself refers to a Massachusetts governor, a member of the predecessor of the current Democratic Party, who started the practice. The minute Democrats control more of the state legislatures, you'll see that more examples will be of them.
calibas 2y ago
It's mostly the Republicans fault, but it didn't help that Biden supported it too, in spite of how other top Democrats felt: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/27/democrats-biden-somalia-airstrike-500916 https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/27/democrats-biden-som...

Yeah. Dude. I don’t like the outcome, but he has “extra” powers because Republicans won a lot of elections and are a majority in all three branches of government and in many statehouses.

georgemcbay 2y ago

> Republicans won a lot of elections A lot of them thanks to the results of blatant gerrymandering.

gottorf 2y ago
My candidate winning reflects the legitimate will of the people, and your candidate winning is solely due to gerrymandering. Of course. Both parties[0][1] in fact do engage in gerrymandering. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois%27s_4th_congressional_district https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois%27s_4th_congressional... [1]: https://thefulcrum.us/electoral-reforms/worst-gerrymandered-districts https://thefulcrum.us/electoral-reforms/worst-gerrymandered-...
- georgemcbay 2y ago
  In your own link [1] all but 2 of the examples of worst gerrymanders are Republican...? But uh yeah "both sides"... uh huh
- kelnos 2y ago
  That's a bad-faith argument. Yes, it's true that both parties engage in gerrymandering. But Republicans do it a lot more than Democrats do. Out of the 25 examples in your second link, it seems like 23 of them are GOP gerrymanders?
  - gottorf 2y ago
    It seems that way because Republicans control most of the state legislatures at the moment. The term itself refers to a Massachusetts governor, a member of the predecessor of the current Democratic Party, who started the practice. The minute Democrats control more of the state legislatures, you'll see that more examples will be of them.

calibas 2y ago

It's mostly the Republicans fault, but it didn't help that Biden supported it too, in spite of how other top Democrats felt: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/27/democrats-biden-somalia-airstrike-500916 https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/27/democrats-biden-som...