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A bit hyperbolic on my part but I think Trump and Elon are quite a potent combination for the money and media influence they have between them. Members of congr

by dkobia 2y ago

A bit hyperbolic on my part but I think Trump and Elon are quite a potent combination for the money and media influence they have between them. Members of congress and senators with opposing views are very unlikely to stick their heads up for fear of the immense amount of money that could be used against them in the midterms and beyond.

doctorpangloss 2y ago
Michael Bloomberg could personally fund an entire presidential campaign. There’s a newspaper named after him. How did he wield that power? The real problems with the DNC campaigns are complex. They have a poor model for how to run national campaigns, clearly. All this equities wealth was made under Democrats, including Elon’s wealth, so it’s not so simple as to say, chasing money. There is some consensus that Democrats need to run media personalities instead of experienced politicians. But not enough consensus to move away from demographics-based election modeling. Suffice it to say this thread could be an interesting conversation about anything but has become a magnet for fringe theories.
- phkahler 2y ago
  >> The real problems with the DNC campaigns are complex. They have a poor model for how to run national campaigns, clearly. The DNC didn't even have a primary last election. They just propped up Kamala and said "here's our candidate" and expected the sheeple to vote for her. Meanwhile one of their best candidates was kicked out of the party a while back and is now Trumps DNI. And if you want to say "they didn't have time" well that's because they figured it was OK to leave a declining old guy in office beyond his sell-by date - yet another poor choice by the DNC.
  - doctorpangloss 2y ago
    One point of view is, post hoc, ergo proctor hoc, doesn't really tell you anything at all.
  - NickC25 2y ago
    Tulsi wasn't one of the Democrat's best candidates. You know who was? Senator Mark Kelly.
  - ModernMech 2y ago
    > one of their best candidates was kicked out of the party a while back and is now Trumps DNI Yeah, and the fact she's working for Trump now is proof that was the right call.
  - kelnos 2y ago
    > Meanwhile one of their best candidates was kicked out of the party a while back and is now Trumps DNI. Maybe most electable (though I'm not sure I buy that either), but certainly not best. The simple fact that she's now Trump's DNI makes it clear that she'd been playing for the other team even before her official party switch.

by dkobia 2y ago

doctorpangloss 2y ago

Michael Bloomberg could personally fund an entire presidential campaign. There’s a newspaper named after him. How did he wield that power? The real problems with the DNC campaigns are complex. They have a poor model for how to run national campaigns, clearly. All this equities wealth was made under Democrats, including Elon’s wealth, so it’s not so simple as to say, chasing money. There is some consensus that Democrats need to run media personalities instead of experienced politicians. But not enough consensus to move away from demographics-based election modeling. Suffice it to say this thread could be an interesting conversation about anything but has become a magnet for fringe theories.

phkahler 2y ago
>> The real problems with the DNC campaigns are complex. They have a poor model for how to run national campaigns, clearly. The DNC didn't even have a primary last election. They just propped up Kamala and said "here's our candidate" and expected the sheeple to vote for her. Meanwhile one of their best candidates was kicked out of the party a while back and is now Trumps DNI. And if you want to say "they didn't have time" well that's because they figured it was OK to leave a declining old guy in office beyond his sell-by date - yet another poor choice by the DNC.
- doctorpangloss 2y ago
  One point of view is, post hoc, ergo proctor hoc, doesn't really tell you anything at all.
- NickC25 2y ago
  Tulsi wasn't one of the Democrat's best candidates. You know who was? Senator Mark Kelly.
- ModernMech 2y ago
  > one of their best candidates was kicked out of the party a while back and is now Trumps DNI Yeah, and the fact she's working for Trump now is proof that was the right call.
- kelnos 2y ago
  > Meanwhile one of their best candidates was kicked out of the party a while back and is now Trumps DNI. Maybe most electable (though I'm not sure I buy that either), but certainly not best. The simple fact that she's now Trump's DNI makes it clear that she'd been playing for the other team even before her official party switch.