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Trump Calls Zelensky a Dictator, Accuses Him of Misusing U.S. Aid

38 points by impish9208 2y ago

HappyDreamer 2y ago
Thanks for un-flagging! (This got flagged. That's why there's so few comments (as of Feb 20, 07:13 CET). Now flags removed by moderators I presume)
- pred_ 2y ago
  Flagged again?
  - dudefeliciano 2y ago
    we are witnessing the biggest political hack in history but most of the posts related to it seem to be of little interest to hackernews
impish9208 2y ago
Gift link: https://www.wsj.com/world/zelensky-says-trump-needs-more-truth-after-claims-ukraine-started-the-war-08989b98?st=yW2sdv https://www.wsj.com/world/zelensky-says-trump-needs-more-tru...
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inverted_flag 2y ago
Trump likes dictators and has even referred to himself as one so maybe this is just a misunderstood compliment.
CurtHagenlocher 2y ago
My heart is breaking for Ukraine.
legitster 2y ago
> Zelensky criticized a U.S. proposal presented to him last week that would have seen Ukraine hand over hundreds of billions of dollars in future revenue from natural-resource extraction, with no security guarantees offered in return. So Ukraine was part of the peace talks, but is now being thrown to the wolves because they didn't want to give up their sovereign mineral rights to "close a deal". All of this is purely retaliative.
- p2detar 2y ago
  The whole thing smells of Russian tactics. They want to get rid of Zelenskyy and install their own puppet president in Ukraine. This will effectively bring back Ukraine to where it was pre-2022 but half-destroyed and with less territory. Then the Russians will just finish it off until they engulf it. Trump is just repeating Russian narratives. What a time.
- timeon 2y ago
  Seems like US wanted to join the invasion with that loot.
oldpersonintx 2y ago
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lawn 2y ago
Wonderful projection. It's just parroting Russian propaganda but you must still marvel at the mental gymnastics here.
k310 2y ago
Repost of mine: Three-way plan to divide the world in three. Trump, Putin, Xi. Sounds familiar. Financial Times, archived article [0] Canada, Trump and the new world order Real short summary: > Focusing American power on its own hemisphere would allow Trump, in other words, to square many circles: to make America great again by making America’s imperial footprint smaller, to reduce the tax burden on the rich by cutting into the apparatus that a global imperium required. So there it is. Give Europe to Putin, the rest of Asia (and presumably Africa) to Xi, and give most of the defense budget (and education and health care) money to the rich. Confirmed Thursday. (02/13/2025) [1] Defense stocks drop after Trump says Pentagon spending could be halved > "At some point, when things settle down, I'm going to meet with China and I'm going to meet with Russia, in particular those two, and I'm going to say there's no reason for us to be spending almost $1 trillion on the military ... and I'm going to say we can spend this on other things," Trump said. > "When we straighten it all out, then one of the first meetings I want to have is with President Xi of China and President Putin of Russia, and I want to say let's cut our military budget in half. And we can do that, and I think we'll be able to do that," he added. [0] https://archive.md/XEEtx https://archive.md/XEEtx [1] https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/business/money-report/defense-stocks-drop-after-trump-says-defense-spending-could-be-halved/6149315/ https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/business/money-report/defens...
rsynnott 2y ago
Ah, I see Putin has gotten the ol’ piss tape out of storage.
- internet_points 2y ago
  Strangely I had not heard of this before now https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/inside-the-convincing-fake-trump-pee-tape.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/inside-the-convi... Somehow I don't find it more "compromising" than the multitude of verifiable tales about Trump
  - rsynnott 2y ago
    I mean, it might confirm Stormy Daniels’ unflattering description of his naughty bits. Trump seems like precisely the sort of insecure weirdo who’d be _super_ sensitive about that (remember his hand size obsession?) Like, I think it’s not particularly consequential, but the tape, if it exists, probably actually is very good leverage over Trump, because he’s Trump. Say what you want about the FSB; they know their job.

38 points by impish9208 2y ago

Thanks for un-flagging! (This got flagged. That's why there's so few comments (as of Feb 20, 07:13 CET). Now flags removed by moderators I presume)

pred_ 2y ago
Flagged again?
- dudefeliciano 2y ago
  we are witnessing the biggest political hack in history but most of the posts related to it seem to be of little interest to hackernews

impish9208 2y ago

Gift link: https://www.wsj.com/world/zelensky-says-trump-needs-more-truth-after-claims-ukraine-started-the-war-08989b98?st=yW2sdv https://www.wsj.com/world/zelensky-says-trump-needs-more-tru...

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inverted_flag 2y ago

Trump likes dictators and has even referred to himself as one so maybe this is just a misunderstood compliment.

CurtHagenlocher 2y ago

My heart is breaking for Ukraine.

legitster 2y ago

> Zelensky criticized a U.S. proposal presented to him last week that would have seen Ukraine hand over hundreds of billions of dollars in future revenue from natural-resource extraction, with no security guarantees offered in return. So Ukraine was part of the peace talks, but is now being thrown to the wolves because they didn't want to give up their sovereign mineral rights to "close a deal". All of this is purely retaliative.

p2detar 2y ago
The whole thing smells of Russian tactics. They want to get rid of Zelenskyy and install their own puppet president in Ukraine. This will effectively bring back Ukraine to where it was pre-2022 but half-destroyed and with less territory. Then the Russians will just finish it off until they engulf it. Trump is just repeating Russian narratives. What a time.
timeon 2y ago
Seems like US wanted to join the invasion with that loot.

oldpersonintx 2y ago

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lawn 2y ago

Wonderful projection. It's just parroting Russian propaganda but you must still marvel at the mental gymnastics here.

k310 2y ago

Repost of mine: Three-way plan to divide the world in three. Trump, Putin, Xi. Sounds familiar. Financial Times, archived article [0] Canada, Trump and the new world order Real short summary: > Focusing American power on its own hemisphere would allow Trump, in other words, to square many circles: to make America great again by making America’s imperial footprint smaller, to reduce the tax burden on the rich by cutting into the apparatus that a global imperium required. So there it is. Give Europe to Putin, the rest of Asia (and presumably Africa) to Xi, and give most of the defense budget (and education and health care) money to the rich. Confirmed Thursday. (02/13/2025) [1] Defense stocks drop after Trump says Pentagon spending could be halved > "At some point, when things settle down, I'm going to meet with China and I'm going to meet with Russia, in particular those two, and I'm going to say there's no reason for us to be spending almost $1 trillion on the military ... and I'm going to say we can spend this on other things," Trump said. > "When we straighten it all out, then one of the first meetings I want to have is with President Xi of China and President Putin of Russia, and I want to say let's cut our military budget in half. And we can do that, and I think we'll be able to do that," he added. [0] https://archive.md/XEEtx https://archive.md/XEEtx [1] https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/business/money-report/defense-stocks-drop-after-trump-says-defense-spending-could-be-halved/6149315/ https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/business/money-report/defens...

rsynnott 2y ago

Ah, I see Putin has gotten the ol’ piss tape out of storage.

internet_points 2y ago
Strangely I had not heard of this before now https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/inside-the-convincing-fake-trump-pee-tape.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/inside-the-convi... Somehow I don't find it more "compromising" than the multitude of verifiable tales about Trump
- rsynnott 2y ago
  I mean, it might confirm Stormy Daniels’ unflattering description of his naughty bits. Trump seems like precisely the sort of insecure weirdo who’d be _super_ sensitive about that (remember his hand size obsession?) Like, I think it’s not particularly consequential, but the tape, if it exists, probably actually is very good leverage over Trump, because he’s Trump. Say what you want about the FSB; they know their job.