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It's possible the battery chemistry has also changed. In the last 12-18 months, a bunch of Android phones have gotten large battery capacity upgrades, apparentl

It's possible the battery chemistry has also changed. In the last 12-18 months, a bunch of Android phones have gotten large battery capacity upgrades, apparently thanks to silicon-carbon anodes being mature enough for mass production. Presumably Apple is now doing the sam thing.

benterix 2y ago
> In the last 12-18 months, a bunch of Android phones have gotten large battery capacity upgrades Can you give some examples? I'd like to test one out but I'm not buying the most recent product as a rule.
- Analemma_ 2y ago
  The OnePlus 13 and Oppo Find X8 both got 10% capacity upgrades over their previous iterations but with the same size/weight. The Honor Magic V2 also has a huge battery despite being a very slim foldable (5,000 mAh, compared to 3,000-3,500 on the ones from Samsung and Google).
- gbil 2y ago
  Oneplus 13 with lithium-silicon battery tech. This is the new tech which allows for higher capacity at the same size as before.
cptcobalt 2y ago
Do signs point toward Apple adopting a unique, new cell chemistry for what will be their high-volume budget product for the next few years? It would have probably been a marketing line if so, similar to the C1 modem. A bigger battery doesn't imply new tech. (Yes, the phone expensive now, but these SE-tier phones typically get discounts pretty quickly after release through carriers/non-apple retail; and then a bigger & formal sale price decrease when the next phone generation comes out.)
- DrBenCarson 2y ago
  The overlap of the “cares about battery chemistry” and “purchases the lowest tier device” is probably close to 0 The C1 modem gets a line because Wall Street has seen that expense for a decade now, so this is a “win” for them. Battery chemistry is completely 3rd party, so they’ll claim the battery life improvement
  - jerlam 2y ago
    The C1 modem is also not a feature that users care about, other than the increased battery life (that Apple does advertise). In fact, there will be concerns that the modem isn't as good as the existing ones in some edge case. Putting the new modem into the new "budget" phone reduces expectations so that the impact of any issues will be blunted. Only when all the problems have been ironed out, that will be when the mainstream iPhones will get the new modem.
    - DrBenCarson 2y ago
      Yes which is why I explained making the modem a highlight is for Wall Street. They acquired part of Intel and worked on this for many years. Shareholders want to know what the result of all that money and time was.

benterix 2y ago

> In the last 12-18 months, a bunch of Android phones have gotten large battery capacity upgrades Can you give some examples? I'd like to test one out but I'm not buying the most recent product as a rule.

Analemma_ 2y ago
The OnePlus 13 and Oppo Find X8 both got 10% capacity upgrades over their previous iterations but with the same size/weight. The Honor Magic V2 also has a huge battery despite being a very slim foldable (5,000 mAh, compared to 3,000-3,500 on the ones from Samsung and Google).
gbil 2y ago
Oneplus 13 with lithium-silicon battery tech. This is the new tech which allows for higher capacity at the same size as before.

cptcobalt 2y ago

Do signs point toward Apple adopting a unique, new cell chemistry for what will be their high-volume budget product for the next few years? It would have probably been a marketing line if so, similar to the C1 modem. A bigger battery doesn't imply new tech. (Yes, the phone expensive now, but these SE-tier phones typically get discounts pretty quickly after release through carriers/non-apple retail; and then a bigger & formal sale price decrease when the next phone generation comes out.)

DrBenCarson 2y ago
The overlap of the “cares about battery chemistry” and “purchases the lowest tier device” is probably close to 0 The C1 modem gets a line because Wall Street has seen that expense for a decade now, so this is a “win” for them. Battery chemistry is completely 3rd party, so they’ll claim the battery life improvement
- jerlam 2y ago
  The C1 modem is also not a feature that users care about, other than the increased battery life (that Apple does advertise). In fact, there will be concerns that the modem isn't as good as the existing ones in some edge case. Putting the new modem into the new "budget" phone reduces expectations so that the impact of any issues will be blunted. Only when all the problems have been ironed out, that will be when the mainstream iPhones will get the new modem.
  - DrBenCarson 2y ago
    Yes which is why I explained making the modem a highlight is for Wall Street. They acquired part of Intel and worked on this for many years. Shareholders want to know what the result of all that money and time was.