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I think it's not "zooming with the sensor", but has a slim lens stack to enable optical 2x zoom. The whole system is also PDAF, so they need the movement anyway

I think it's not "zooming with the sensor", but has a slim lens stack to enable optical 2x zoom. The whole system is also PDAF, so they need the movement anyway.

kemayo 2y ago
It'd be nifty if they did that, but I'm skeptical they'd introduce something like that on their new budget model.
- rescbr 2y ago
  I'd say it's a nice platform to test on before bringing it to flagship models. Same thing with the new modem.
  - seec 2y ago
    They did the modem because it's actually cheaper for them. They already bought the Intel division and had engineers work on it for over 5 years, so it's already sunk costs at best. Since they came up with a working design, it is FOR SURE cheaper for them to use it than to buy something from Qualcomm. I'm a bit suspicious about this, because if it was truly great, they would have waited longer to advertise it as a must have feature for their "pro" devices. It's sort of beta testing the thing on the lower volume product with less tech literate people who won't complain too much because of some weird connectivity issues. If it performs, Apple is going to make even more money on the next round of iPhone, not that Apple needs any more money but you know, if that could stop them from increasing the price, that could be nice.
    - rescbr 2y ago
      I wouldn’t say it’s suspicious. I think it is a good plan to get telemetry from real world usage. Since Apple owns the whole stack, they can iterate faster too.
enragedcacti 2y ago
If it were an optical zoom then it would be able to take 24MP and 48MP shots like it can in 1x mode, but it is limited to 12MP which highly suggests its just a crop.
Kirby64 2y ago
No, it’s literally a digital crop exactly like the other sensors that use 48MP sensors. There’s nothing magic here. I would be shocked if it’s anything different than the exact identical camera used in the base iPhone 15, quite frankly. The cheaper versions never use the latest hardware for the cameras.

I think it's not "zooming with the sensor", but has a slim lens stack to enable optical 2x zoom. The whole system is also PDAF, so they need the movement anyway.

kemayo 2y ago

It'd be nifty if they did that, but I'm skeptical they'd introduce something like that on their new budget model.

rescbr 2y ago
I'd say it's a nice platform to test on before bringing it to flagship models. Same thing with the new modem.
- seec 2y ago
  They did the modem because it's actually cheaper for them. They already bought the Intel division and had engineers work on it for over 5 years, so it's already sunk costs at best. Since they came up with a working design, it is FOR SURE cheaper for them to use it than to buy something from Qualcomm. I'm a bit suspicious about this, because if it was truly great, they would have waited longer to advertise it as a must have feature for their "pro" devices. It's sort of beta testing the thing on the lower volume product with less tech literate people who won't complain too much because of some weird connectivity issues. If it performs, Apple is going to make even more money on the next round of iPhone, not that Apple needs any more money but you know, if that could stop them from increasing the price, that could be nice.
  - rescbr 2y ago
    I wouldn’t say it’s suspicious. I think it is a good plan to get telemetry from real world usage. Since Apple owns the whole stack, they can iterate faster too.

enragedcacti 2y ago

If it were an optical zoom then it would be able to take 24MP and 48MP shots like it can in 1x mode, but it is limited to 12MP which highly suggests its just a crop.

Kirby64 2y ago

No, it’s literally a digital crop exactly like the other sensors that use 48MP sensors. There’s nothing magic here. I would be shocked if it’s anything different than the exact identical camera used in the base iPhone 15, quite frankly. The cheaper versions never use the latest hardware for the cameras.