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Oh boy, a 6.1 inch screen. "Popular". Ugh. RIP any hopes of a small SE refresh.

by _gotb 2y ago

datadrivenangel 2y ago
Guess it's time to go get one of the flip phones...
- bayindirh 2y ago
  I personally will never go back to flexible plastic screens. I used them enough in resistive touchscreens era.
  - LorenDB 2y ago
    I have a Razr. The touchscreen surface isn't glass (there's a TPU film on top for protection), but it's a very good experience and I rarely think about it not being glass.
    - bayindirh 2y ago
      I agree that the tech is not at the place where it was 25 years ago, but I fiddled with plastic screen protectors on top of these kinds of screens enough. I still use screen protectors, but glass on glass is a much better experience for me. It's a matter of choice, and I'm not judging people who like it by any means, but I'm a bit boneheaded on these things and don't change my choices that fast. For example, I still don't think OLED is suitable for TV sized screens and laptops. I know how the color and contrast is better, but I don't want to replace my TV or laptop every three years because it develops subtle burn-ins for example. I come from CRTs, and can endure a good backlit LCD a couple of more years, esp if it has color temperature adaptive backlight.
jmkni 2y ago
I've gotten so used to my 13 mini that anything bigger just feels too big Hoping against hope that Apple brings back that size/form factor someday so clinging on to my 13 mini until that day comes...
- afavour 2y ago
  I eventually upgraded my 13 mini and I still miss it. Still irritates me that I can’t swipe down from the top of the screen with a one handed gesture.
dudefeliciano 2y ago
this was literally the only reason i wanted to buy a SE revamp
user3939382 2y ago
Even the SE was a little bigger than the 4S screen I really miss. Combined with the angled sides it was the last phone I could comfortably operate with one hand.
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baq 2y ago
They need that screen so they can fit a reasonable battery underneath... an unfortunate tradeoff
- lotsofpulp 2y ago
  13 mini battery life must be sufficient for most people. There are chargers everywhere now.
- zozbot234 2y ago
  Seriously? They could just make the battery a bit thicker, it wouldn't even change the overall shape in a really perceptible way.
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sampton 2y ago
I always hear people on hn asking for smaller screen. Apple actually made a small 12. It was the worst selling phone in the lineup.
- maelito 2y ago
  Not only on HN, everywhere around me. It has to do with country trends I guess. In France, so many people want small phones. They just cannot buy them anymore, they're not produced.
  - bombcar 2y ago
    Apple should just start a preorder site for a small iPhone 17 and wait until enough are collected to make it. (Or do what I always thought they should do and have a small iPhone and a normal sized one with identical internals, only the case, battery, and screen would be different.)
- boxed 2y ago
  The worst selling iPhone can still be a larger business than 50%+ of all android phones.
  - rs186 2y ago
    Citation needed.
maelito 2y ago
Came to the comments to see just this : how small is it ? On this huge page there is no mention of the size. Size matters for me : I'm looking for a compact Android phone, there is none now. Something close to the iPhone 12 mini.
ehsankia 2y ago
I feel like these comments complaining about modern screen sizes don't consider that Bezels have shrunk a ton since. Both SE 2020 and 2022 had a body size of 138.4mm x 67.3mm, which gives a diagonal of 153.9mm or 6.1 inches. The new iPhone 16e has a body of 146.7mm x 71.5mm, with a diagonal of 163.2mm, or 6.4 inches. So only 5% bigger.
- arp242 2y ago
  My hands are too small to comfortably use the screen. Bezel size don't matter. How about accepting that we know what we want and that we don't need you you to lecture us on our preferences? Seriously, what's wrong with you? "Oh you complained about your preference on X, but let me educate you about your preferences are wrong?"
calebm 2y ago
Back in my day, new advancements meant smaller phones. Hopefully we get back there soon. Till then, I'm sticking with my iPhone 12 mini.

Oh boy, a 6.1 inch screen. "Popular". Ugh. RIP any hopes of a small SE refresh.

by _gotb 2y ago

Oh boy, a 6.1 inch screen. "Popular". Ugh. RIP any hopes of a small SE refresh.

datadrivenangel 2y ago

Guess it's time to go get one of the flip phones...

bayindirh 2y ago
I personally will never go back to flexible plastic screens. I used them enough in resistive touchscreens era.
- LorenDB 2y ago
  I have a Razr. The touchscreen surface isn't glass (there's a TPU film on top for protection), but it's a very good experience and I rarely think about it not being glass.
  - bayindirh 2y ago
    I agree that the tech is not at the place where it was 25 years ago, but I fiddled with plastic screen protectors on top of these kinds of screens enough. I still use screen protectors, but glass on glass is a much better experience for me. It's a matter of choice, and I'm not judging people who like it by any means, but I'm a bit boneheaded on these things and don't change my choices that fast. For example, I still don't think OLED is suitable for TV sized screens and laptops. I know how the color and contrast is better, but I don't want to replace my TV or laptop every three years because it develops subtle burn-ins for example. I come from CRTs, and can endure a good backlit LCD a couple of more years, esp if it has color temperature adaptive backlight.

jmkni 2y ago

I've gotten so used to my 13 mini that anything bigger just feels too big Hoping against hope that Apple brings back that size/form factor someday so clinging on to my 13 mini until that day comes...

afavour 2y ago
I eventually upgraded my 13 mini and I still miss it. Still irritates me that I can’t swipe down from the top of the screen with a one handed gesture.

dudefeliciano 2y ago

this was literally the only reason i wanted to buy a SE revamp

user3939382 2y ago

Even the SE was a little bigger than the 4S screen I really miss. Combined with the angled sides it was the last phone I could comfortably operate with one hand.

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baq 2y ago

They need that screen so they can fit a reasonable battery underneath... an unfortunate tradeoff

lotsofpulp 2y ago
13 mini battery life must be sufficient for most people. There are chargers everywhere now.
zozbot234 2y ago
Seriously? They could just make the battery a bit thicker, it wouldn't even change the overall shape in a really perceptible way.

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sampton 2y ago

I always hear people on hn asking for smaller screen. Apple actually made a small 12. It was the worst selling phone in the lineup.

maelito 2y ago
Not only on HN, everywhere around me. It has to do with country trends I guess. In France, so many people want small phones. They just cannot buy them anymore, they're not produced.
- bombcar 2y ago
  Apple should just start a preorder site for a small iPhone 17 and wait until enough are collected to make it. (Or do what I always thought they should do and have a small iPhone and a normal sized one with identical internals, only the case, battery, and screen would be different.)
boxed 2y ago
The worst selling iPhone can still be a larger business than 50%+ of all android phones.
- rs186 2y ago
  Citation needed.

maelito 2y ago

Came to the comments to see just this : how small is it ? On this huge page there is no mention of the size. Size matters for me : I'm looking for a compact Android phone, there is none now. Something close to the iPhone 12 mini.

ehsankia 2y ago

I feel like these comments complaining about modern screen sizes don't consider that Bezels have shrunk a ton since. Both SE 2020 and 2022 had a body size of 138.4mm x 67.3mm, which gives a diagonal of 153.9mm or 6.1 inches. The new iPhone 16e has a body of 146.7mm x 71.5mm, with a diagonal of 163.2mm, or 6.4 inches. So only 5% bigger.

arp242 2y ago
My hands are too small to comfortably use the screen. Bezel size don't matter. How about accepting that we know what we want and that we don't need you you to lecture us on our preferences? Seriously, what's wrong with you? "Oh you complained about your preference on X, but let me educate you about your preferences are wrong?"

calebm 2y ago

Back in my day, new advancements meant smaller phones. Hopefully we get back there soon. Till then, I'm sticking with my iPhone 12 mini.