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From what I saw, a "massive" amount of the left had no problem with FBI agents repeatedly lying to the FISA court to get warrants to spy on the opposing parties

From what I saw, a "massive" amount of the left had no problem with FBI agents repeatedly lying to the FISA court to get warrants to spy on the opposing parties presidential campaign. Everyone on both sides knows the other side is full of criminals so anything against them is OK. There is no good ending to this situation.

intermerda 2y ago
You're regurgitating a thoroughly bunked talking point. The "both sides" enlightened centrism serves exactly one side and you know which one it is.
- cshores 2y ago
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  - johnnyanmac 2y ago
    no idea why you are rejecting healthcare and social security, But power to you I suppose.
    - cshores 2y ago
      Social Security is a a scam. If individuals were allowed to keep their contributions and invest them in the stock market—for example, in index funds like VOO and chill then nearly every American could retire as a millionaire, making traditional 401k unnecessary.
      - johnnyanmac 2y ago
        Okay, tell that to the 65+ demographic who were offered pensions and promises of a new deal from their parents. Stocks werent what they were back then before we surrendered our riches to billionaires. A pension was probably way safer than investing unless you already worked in the economic sector. I'm a millenial and was raised early expecting social security to run out by the time I retire. Not the first time society pulled the ladder up on me.
        cshores 2y ago
        It was the new deal democrats who stole riches from Americans to put in Fort Knox and foisted this scam on America. It has become a slush fund for the government with hundreds of crooks hands in the cookie jar. It needs to be dissolved, and those who will be worse off by investments will continue to get paid and those who would do better would have it privatized in a staged approach to its dissolution. Removing the parasites in DC by reducing most of the federal government and reducing military spending will help with allocating funds to assist with it's dissolution.
        dartos 2y ago
        What a mouthful of pretty rhetoric “Slush fund” “crooks” “cookie jar” “parasites” But not a single meaningful point brought up or data pointed towards. It’s a nice easy way to feel like something makes sense without thinking about it. What are you doing just spouting rhetoric at people who, you know, don’t agree? > reducing military spending This needs to happen. It dwarfs non military spending. But that’ll never happen in the US.
        cshores 2y ago
        Yeah that's what I thought. You couldn't rebutle any of it.
dartos 2y ago
> Everyone on both sides knows the other side is full of criminals so anything against them is OK Yet only one side is literally dismantling the country, department by department, and selling off chunks to the richest man in the world. The richest man in the world, who keeps appearing next to the president in interviews besides not being elected by anyone for anything.

intermerda 2y ago

You're regurgitating a thoroughly bunked talking point. The "both sides" enlightened centrism serves exactly one side and you know which one it is.

cshores 2y ago
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- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  no idea why you are rejecting healthcare and social security, But power to you I suppose.
  - cshores 2y ago
    Social Security is a a scam. If individuals were allowed to keep their contributions and invest them in the stock market—for example, in index funds like VOO and chill then nearly every American could retire as a millionaire, making traditional 401k unnecessary.
    - johnnyanmac 2y ago
      Okay, tell that to the 65+ demographic who were offered pensions and promises of a new deal from their parents. Stocks werent what they were back then before we surrendered our riches to billionaires. A pension was probably way safer than investing unless you already worked in the economic sector. I'm a millenial and was raised early expecting social security to run out by the time I retire. Not the first time society pulled the ladder up on me.
      - cshores 2y ago
        It was the new deal democrats who stole riches from Americans to put in Fort Knox and foisted this scam on America. It has become a slush fund for the government with hundreds of crooks hands in the cookie jar. It needs to be dissolved, and those who will be worse off by investments will continue to get paid and those who would do better would have it privatized in a staged approach to its dissolution. Removing the parasites in DC by reducing most of the federal government and reducing military spending will help with allocating funds to assist with it's dissolution.
        dartos 2y ago
        What a mouthful of pretty rhetoric “Slush fund” “crooks” “cookie jar” “parasites” But not a single meaningful point brought up or data pointed towards. It’s a nice easy way to feel like something makes sense without thinking about it. What are you doing just spouting rhetoric at people who, you know, don’t agree? > reducing military spending This needs to happen. It dwarfs non military spending. But that’ll never happen in the US.
        cshores 2y ago
        Yeah that's what I thought. You couldn't rebutle any of it.

dartos 2y ago

> Everyone on both sides knows the other side is full of criminals so anything against them is OK Yet only one side is literally dismantling the country, department by department, and selling off chunks to the richest man in the world. The richest man in the world, who keeps appearing next to the president in interviews besides not being elected by anyone for anything.