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i.e. reprint the books. You can get them as video games on Steam, with isometric 2D graphics and it automates away the dice-rolling and bookkeeping (and also a

by smcin 2y ago

i.e. reprint the books. You can get them as video games on Steam, with isometric 2D graphics and it automates away the dice-rolling and bookkeeping (and also allows you cheat and reroll any roll up to two more times). For cheaper than this Kickstarter reprint: https://store.steampowered.com/app/856880/Fighting_Fantasy_Classics/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/856880/Fighting_Fantasy_C... https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/8086/Fighting_Fantasy_Classics_Collection/ https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/8086/Fighting_Fantasy_...

tommica 2y ago
Neat, would love to have both games and books!
karlgkk 2y ago
Before you throw shade at SJ games, you should look into their history. Very interesting :)
- 2mlWQbCK 2y ago
  Not sure what you are referring to, but many here are probably familiar with the Secret Service raid on SJ Games headquarters in 1990. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jackson_Games,_Inc._v._United_States_Secret_Service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jackson_Games,_Inc._v._U...
mmooss 2y ago
Cheapness, efficiency, and a lack of repetitive tasks are not usually goals of art or even entertainment. Somewhere I saw a computer RPG where the UI was just a small window with some stats in it. Much cheaper and more efficient, you would just watch the stats roll up - the gameplay was 'automated away'! :) (I don't remember the name and some searching didn't find it.)
- thaumasiotes 2y ago
  That's become a popular genre, called "idle games".
- whiskers 2y ago
  You might be thinking of Progress Quest!
  - mmooss 2y ago
    Yes! Thank you.
- smcin 2y ago
  Noone suggested cheapness, efficiency, and a lack of repetitive tasks were goals, this is a bad-faith take on what I wrote. I said if you want to play those titles a) right now without all the months of wait and uncertainty of a Kickstarter campaign, b) you get them as Steam license-key games not books, c) the artwork is at least in color and d) as a bonus, it happens to be cheaper; e) s a downside, Steam license keys are not ideal since Steam recently tried to claim keys were revocable when it retires a title for a large group of people (e.g. all subscribers resident in a specific country, or on a specific platform). Choose-your-own-adventure and idle-incremental games are two very different genres (and the latter can only exist with lots of compute power, which was not available to the choose-your-own-adventure genres in the 1980s, which is why they have simplified mechanics compared to D&D and RPGs).
jvan 2y ago
>with isometric 2D graphics I got excited because I thought I had missed something, but these are the same apps I've had for years. They're not isometric games, though some of the illustrations have a similar perspective.
- smcin 2y ago
  Steam did in fact did remake a isometric 2D of "The Warlock of Firetop Mountain": https://store.steampowered.com/app/324740/The_Warlock_of_Firetop_Mountain/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/324740/The_Warlock_of_Fir... alongside the classic (static HTML images) book version: https://store.steampowered.com/app/856960/The_Warlock_of_Firetop_Mountain_Fighting_Fantasy_Classics/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/856960/The_Warlock_of_Fir... Steam's marketing was seriously confusing; they bundled a lot of the SJG titles together ('Fighting Fantasy MEGA Bundle') and frontloaded the bundle listing with a 2D screenshot of Warlock so a casual read might assume all the titles had gotten that treatment. (Probably if they;d gotten more sales on the remade Warlock, they would have remade other titles too.)

by smcin 2y ago

tommica 2y ago

Neat, would love to have both games and books!

karlgkk 2y ago

Before you throw shade at SJ games, you should look into their history. Very interesting :)

2mlWQbCK 2y ago
Not sure what you are referring to, but many here are probably familiar with the Secret Service raid on SJ Games headquarters in 1990. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jackson_Games,_Inc._v._United_States_Secret_Service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jackson_Games,_Inc._v._U...

mmooss 2y ago

Cheapness, efficiency, and a lack of repetitive tasks are not usually goals of art or even entertainment. Somewhere I saw a computer RPG where the UI was just a small window with some stats in it. Much cheaper and more efficient, you would just watch the stats roll up - the gameplay was 'automated away'! :) (I don't remember the name and some searching didn't find it.)

thaumasiotes 2y ago
That's become a popular genre, called "idle games".
whiskers 2y ago
You might be thinking of Progress Quest!
- mmooss 2y ago
  Yes! Thank you.
smcin 2y ago
Noone suggested cheapness, efficiency, and a lack of repetitive tasks were goals, this is a bad-faith take on what I wrote. I said if you want to play those titles a) right now without all the months of wait and uncertainty of a Kickstarter campaign, b) you get them as Steam license-key games not books, c) the artwork is at least in color and d) as a bonus, it happens to be cheaper; e) s a downside, Steam license keys are not ideal since Steam recently tried to claim keys were revocable when it retires a title for a large group of people (e.g. all subscribers resident in a specific country, or on a specific platform). Choose-your-own-adventure and idle-incremental games are two very different genres (and the latter can only exist with lots of compute power, which was not available to the choose-your-own-adventure genres in the 1980s, which is why they have simplified mechanics compared to D&D and RPGs).

jvan 2y ago

>with isometric 2D graphics I got excited because I thought I had missed something, but these are the same apps I've had for years. They're not isometric games, though some of the illustrations have a similar perspective.

smcin 2y ago
Steam did in fact did remake a isometric 2D of "The Warlock of Firetop Mountain": https://store.steampowered.com/app/324740/The_Warlock_of_Firetop_Mountain/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/324740/The_Warlock_of_Fir... alongside the classic (static HTML images) book version: https://store.steampowered.com/app/856960/The_Warlock_of_Firetop_Mountain_Fighting_Fantasy_Classics/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/856960/The_Warlock_of_Fir... Steam's marketing was seriously confusing; they bundled a lot of the SJG titles together ('Fighting Fantasy MEGA Bundle') and frontloaded the bundle listing with a 2D screenshot of Warlock so a casual read might assume all the titles had gotten that treatment. (Probably if they;d gotten more sales on the remade Warlock, they would have remade other titles too.)