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Here's a theory. https://www.newyorker.com/news/swamp-chronicles/a-theory-of-trump-kompromat https://www.newyorker.com/news/swamp-chronicles/a-theory-of-...

IAmGraydon 2y ago
It’s useless to post paywalled articles. https://archive.is/bEoCT https://archive.is/bEoCT Also, it’s an interesting theory and would make a lot of sense, but it’s presented with literally not one shred of actual evidence. I find it hard to believe something like this is going on and our intelligence services haven’t picked up on any of it.
tim333 2y ago
I was going to say Kompromat seems likely.
- red-iron-pine 2y ago
  possible, but the dude is a terrible business man and has been bailed out constantly by the Russian Mafia. no need to blackmail him when he's terrible with money -- just turn off the tap or offer more. add in a huge quantity of narcissism + a pathological need to bang Eastern European women (aka the classic Soviet/Russian honeypot), and you've got him locked down easily. his ego, plus his complete inability to get accepted by NYC high society make him easy to manipulate after you've satisfied his immediate needs for debt-payment money and Slovenian pin-up models. top-shelf asset handling by Russian intelligence, btw. Farage and Trump -- those asset account managers are damn good. deep web rumors have suggested Melania herself was his handler, and if so she's probably the most accomplished case officer in history.
  - tim333 2y ago
    That's an interesting theory re Melania - that hadn't occurred to me. Though she doesn't really come across that way. I think Katya Banks, wife of Brexit's main funder, is though: >Cadwalladr said the file claimed Katya Banks had entered Britain on a passport sequentially numbered to the passport of Katia Zatuliveter, a woman MI5 had claimed was a Russian spy and who had had an affair with the Portsmouth MP, Mike Hancock. Katya Banks was also alleged to have had a relationship with Hancock. Googling suggest the Russians have been on to Trump since 1977 while he only met Melania in 1998. (1977 source https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia...)
consumer451 2y ago
I don’t understand how kompromat works against Trump‘s political party in the modern age. Meaning, I don’t believe that it would. What else could they be accused of? They control their own media channels, just declare "fake news" and move on.
- chairmansteve 2y ago
  That is true. But maybe it is so embarrassing that he doesn't want it minimally distributed. To his kids, allies etc. Or maybe there is no kompromat and he just really likes Putin.
  - consumer451 2y ago
    > maybe there is no kompromat and he just really likes Putin. This is the much more frightening possibility to me. Not just because that appears to POTUS's belief system, but apparently also that of many powerful rich Americans.
- tim333 2y ago
  Two possibilities: Trump did sexual stuff with Russian hookers. They have the vid. Would be embarrassing. Apparently it was quite standard for the KGB to gather such data and Trump was in Moscow in his playboy days and would quite likely have done things. or Trump broke money laundering laws in his extensive dealings with the Russians. Both seem kind of possible to me, especially the first. I note that around the first Trump Putin calls the Russians put various naked pictures of Melania on their TV channels which may have been a reminder of possible hooker photos?
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- red-iron-pine 2y ago
  it would have to be bad. like baaaaaad. like CSAM, snuff, donkey sort of bad. cuz otherwise the dude has no shame and doesn't give a fuck.

IAmGraydon 2y ago

It’s useless to post paywalled articles. https://archive.is/bEoCT https://archive.is/bEoCT Also, it’s an interesting theory and would make a lot of sense, but it’s presented with literally not one shred of actual evidence. I find it hard to believe something like this is going on and our intelligence services haven’t picked up on any of it.

tim333 2y ago

I was going to say Kompromat seems likely.

red-iron-pine 2y ago
possible, but the dude is a terrible business man and has been bailed out constantly by the Russian Mafia. no need to blackmail him when he's terrible with money -- just turn off the tap or offer more. add in a huge quantity of narcissism + a pathological need to bang Eastern European women (aka the classic Soviet/Russian honeypot), and you've got him locked down easily. his ego, plus his complete inability to get accepted by NYC high society make him easy to manipulate after you've satisfied his immediate needs for debt-payment money and Slovenian pin-up models. top-shelf asset handling by Russian intelligence, btw. Farage and Trump -- those asset account managers are damn good. deep web rumors have suggested Melania herself was his handler, and if so she's probably the most accomplished case officer in history.
- tim333 2y ago
  That's an interesting theory re Melania - that hadn't occurred to me. Though she doesn't really come across that way. I think Katya Banks, wife of Brexit's main funder, is though: >Cadwalladr said the file claimed Katya Banks had entered Britain on a passport sequentially numbered to the passport of Katia Zatuliveter, a woman MI5 had claimed was a Russian spy and who had had an affair with the Portsmouth MP, Mike Hancock. Katya Banks was also alleged to have had a relationship with Hancock. Googling suggest the Russians have been on to Trump since 1977 while he only met Melania in 1998. (1977 source https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia...)

consumer451 2y ago

I don’t understand how kompromat works against Trump‘s political party in the modern age. Meaning, I don’t believe that it would. What else could they be accused of? They control their own media channels, just declare "fake news" and move on.

chairmansteve 2y ago
That is true. But maybe it is so embarrassing that he doesn't want it minimally distributed. To his kids, allies etc. Or maybe there is no kompromat and he just really likes Putin.
- consumer451 2y ago
  > maybe there is no kompromat and he just really likes Putin. This is the much more frightening possibility to me. Not just because that appears to POTUS's belief system, but apparently also that of many powerful rich Americans.
tim333 2y ago
Two possibilities: Trump did sexual stuff with Russian hookers. They have the vid. Would be embarrassing. Apparently it was quite standard for the KGB to gather such data and Trump was in Moscow in his playboy days and would quite likely have done things. or Trump broke money laundering laws in his extensive dealings with the Russians. Both seem kind of possible to me, especially the first. I note that around the first Trump Putin calls the Russians put various naked pictures of Melania on their TV channels which may have been a reminder of possible hooker photos?
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red-iron-pine 2y ago
it would have to be bad. like baaaaaad. like CSAM, snuff, donkey sort of bad. cuz otherwise the dude has no shame and doesn't give a fuck.