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I don't see that as a problem at all, just like I don't see header files in C++ as a major problem, there are benefits as well and Java has the best IDEs of any
by codr7 2y ago
I don't see that as a problem at all, just like I don't see header files in C++ as a major problem, there are benefits as well and Java has the best IDEs of any language I've worked in except maybe SmallTalk.
- 38 2y agoJava has the best IDEs, because as a language development is essentially impossible without one. contrast with Go where I can put as many types into one file as I like, and I can (and do) use Go without an IDE, both personally and professionally
- gf000 2y agoWhat part of Java development is impossible without an IDE? It's a stupidly simple language. Just because people actually use it and thus IDEs were developed to aid the development process doesn't make it a necessity at all. I have programmed Java countless times from vim without any plugins. The only pain point is imports, which would be similarly painful in any other language ever created.
- johnisgood 2y agoLet me know when you can work on a medium-sized Java codebase in Emacs or Vim smoothly.
- codr7 2y agoI more or less live in Emacs, but I wouldn't use it for drawing pictures or writing SmallTalk either. The right tool for the job.
- johnisgood 2y agoI can use Emacs and Vim for pretty much everything, definitely not Java or JVM-like languages.